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== User SBS3107H ==
Hi could you remove SBS3107H as admin? I feel he doesn't deserve the admin role from the way he reverts edit for no rhyme or reason,and editing it back himself, before he starts blocking users
== User SBS3107H ==
to add on the above feedback regarding SBS3107H, i have actually make the same feedback earlier to APEX-LW21 last week. many incorrect edit by this user and also, recently he undo CORRECT edit for new registration for B5LH page and lock the page and reedit himself with the same information. why? is that B5lH section reserve entirely for him?
EDIT: ADD ON 20/3, just discover that he is doing the same for MAN A95/MAN A22 BATCH 4 PAGE. other person edits new registration (under Go-ahead) and he undo all the edit of these registrations? and he edit it back himself? so being a moderator is allowed to do this?
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== RE: About the Wiki ==
===Rail Wiki Expansion===


Hi Supernutorcrazy,
Hi Supernutorcrazy,


I'm sorry to hear about the false accusations which led to the Wiki's current state, however I believe that does not mean that their "beliefs" should get in the way of maintaining order in the Wiki.
Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?<br>
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit<br>
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.
 
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.
 
 
==Station layout==


As much as you are "not allowed to moderate", I believe that, at the very least, sgWiki Guidebook guidelines should be enforced until Jason resolves the issue with all Administrators & involved infiltrators.
Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.


I know that there are other wikis out there that are getting constantly vandalized, and it is also just as difficult keeping things in order as well as starting a whole new wiki, having to set up all pages again to provide relevant info.
Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.  


I'm sorry if I sound imposing, but it is for the good of the wiki.
How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?


Regards,<br>DarkNight
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==


== About a username change... ==
Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.


Good evening sir,
Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box


I was wondering if I could get a username change to a SMRT registration number. Just like how some users have bus plates in their username. Eg. SG5064X, SMB1572U etc.
Thanks and Regards
 
==Service information ==
The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.
 
Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.
 
Bring back [[Bus Service 222/222A/222B]] and [[Bus Service 282]] will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.
 
Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page
== Bus ads ==
 
Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.
 
== Just to bring to your attention, the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] ==
 
Just to bring to your attention that the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.
 
== Bus Service Pages (History) ==
 
I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.
 
== Since ==
Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.
 
== Re: Bus Ads ==
 
Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.
 
== White/blue UPD sticker ==
 
Hi,
 
The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.


Regards,
Regards,
Kay


SimonLim88
== Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages ==


== Reply: Seeking informations ==
Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.
Hi.
=== Classification of bus models ===
==== Scania K230UB ====
We should leave the page titles as they currently are.


However, we may consider amending the titles to the following:
== Re: reformatting of bus service pages ==
* Scania K230UB (Euro IV Batch 1) → Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 1)
* Scania K230UB (Euro IV Batch 2) → Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)
* Scania K230UB (Euro V Batch 1) → Scania K230UB (Euro V) (Batch 1)
* Scania K230UB (Euro V Batch 2) → Scania K230UB (Euro V) (Batch 2)


This is to standardise with the Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) page titles.
Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.
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==== MAN NL323F ====
We may consider amending the titles to the following:
* MAN NL323F (Batch 1) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 1)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 2) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 2)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 3) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 3)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 4) → MAN NL323F (Euro VI)


or
Regards,
 
LTA Bus Irrationalisation
* MAN NL323F (Batch 1) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 1)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 2) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 2)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 3) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 3)
* MAN NL323F (Batch 4) → MAN NL323F (Euro VI)


This is to differentiate the bodywork and the emission difference, and also standardise with the Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) page titles.
== Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that ==


That aside, it might be weird for us to list SG3100M in the MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 2) page as it is currently a retrofitted electric bus.
Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages
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==== MAN ND323F ====
We should leave the page titles as they currently are.


It doesn't sound right for us to classify SG2017C as a Euro VI demonstrator bus as
*[[Bedok Feeder Services 222 - 229]]
* It is ordered under the third production batch
*[[Toa Payoh Feeder Services 230 - 238]]
* It carries the updated face-lift design, the same as the other 91 MAN ND323F (Batch 3) buses


SG2017C has the same engine model as the MAN ND323F (Batch 4) & (Batch 5) buses. Passenger capacity is an exception as the LTA has mentioned that newer buses would have 2 PIW lots.
Thanks


If not, we will be classifying SG2017C as a Euro VI demonstrator, and the following changes would be made:
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 5 November 2024, 12:11
* MAN ND323F (Batch 1) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 1)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 2) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 2)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 3) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 3)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 4) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI Batch 1)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 5) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI Batch 2)


or
== Bus History page ==


* MAN ND323F (Batch 1) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 1)
Hi is it possible that History page be kept untouched? I nearly missed out on Sv 78's amendment to Jurong Town Hall Int when doing a complication of the bus history for today (26 November)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 2) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 2)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 3) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 3)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 4) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI) (Batch 1)
* MAN ND323F (Batch 5) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI) (Batch 2)


As for the upcoming 50 3-Door MAN ND323F buses, should we list them under the existing MAN ND323F (3-Door) page?
== Loss of Bus Advertisement Information ==


Or should we list them separately as
Hi there,
* MAN ND323F (3-Door) (Euro V)
* MAN ND323F (3-Door) (Euro VI)
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==== Alexander Dennis Enviro500 ====
We will create a new 'Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (3-Door)' page once registration has commenced for the 50 3-Door ADL E500 buses. The prototype bus should not be listed in this page.


No change to the existing ADL E500 pages.
It has been very long since I last spoke to you. A little mixed feelings with regards to the changes but nevertheless would wish to highlight on the removal of the bus advertisement section on bus deployments by model. This makes it harder for bus enthusiasts to track on new bus advertisements and I feel it is a real shame that all the hard work that has been done by previous editors have been put to waste.
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==== Volvo B9TL (WEG2) ====
We may consider amending the titles to the following:
* Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 1) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 1)
* Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 2)
* Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 3) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 3)
* Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 4) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 4)


This is to standardise with the Scania K230UB page titles, as well as how we indicate these buses in the bus service deployment pages.
Also, in addition to that, I feel the new organisation of information is making the rows and columns unnecessarily long and I do not think this is a good thing from a user perspective point of view (eg. The labeling for Lush Green livery across ~100 buses in rego number succession cannot even be seen easily because so many buses have this livery).


=== Classification of bus services ===
With these changes, I also wish to know if Bus Deployments by Service and Bus Deployments by Model will be '''completely''' independent and separate from each other. Because from the way I see it, editors are no longer able to update bus deployments for specific rego numbers into the new Bus Deployments by Service pages. Maybe it would be good if I could get some clarity on the overall changes and the basis for these drastic changes.
I have seen and read the discussion initiated by user 'Litlah', and the discussion page that you have recently created.


*All pages with more than 30 subheading will be split into smaller page to facilitate easier browsing & editing on mobile devices. This means SBS Transit Short Working Trips has to be split. But this in contrast to user Wekelwrady that had pointed out that it would broke the standardisation issue. So a counter-solution would be made as below.
Thank you.
:'''Opinion:''' I honestly don't see why is there a problem with lengthy pages. There is a 'Contents' section at the top of the page for us to jump to the section that we would like to read or edit.
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*Short Working Trips will be merged into Parent Service Pages, with the sub heading as Short-Trip instead of Service.
*Merger of [[Services 400 - 405]] and [[Services 851 - 860]] etc. would not take place. But in lieu of the GCM and how LTA like to "draw services into package" anytime, a merger of page between operators could be made so that a change of operator would not need to rename/move multiple sections.
**Example: Merge of [[Services 400 - 405]] and [[Service 403]] into [[Basic Services 400 - 405]] with the concept follow [[CDS Bus Deployments]] and [[Bukit Batok Feeders]].
**Such merger and renaming exercise will applies to others with route number such as, but not limited to Express services. Example:
***CDS Bus Deployments → City Direct Services 651 - 672
***NightRider Services → NightRider Services NR1 - NR8
:'''Opinion:''' It would great if we proceed with both mergers. However it would better if we could retain our current way of listing the services by operators by reinstating the subpages that you have previously created for a small number of services. Also, the operator logo should be displayed along with the bus service route, depot & bus package details. I think we can implement this after
::1. CDS 668 is transferred its operations to a PBO & receive WAB status so that we can eliminate the WAB indication.
::2. The reorganisation of night services has been announced by the LTA.
:Hopefully this can be implemented before the change in operator for the Mandai & Bulim services.
::'''Add on:''' On second thought, should we also include the Express services in this merger? And should the departure times be implemented for every service? It would be similar to those shown in the Short-Trip & Express service pages.


Thanks.
Themystery

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Leave your message below[edit]

Rail Wiki Expansion[edit]

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Station layout[edit]

Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.

Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.

How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?

Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades[edit]

Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.

Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box

Thanks and Regards

Service information[edit]

The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.

Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.

Bring back Bus Service 222/222A/222B and Bus Service 282 will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.

Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page

Bus ads[edit]

Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.

Just to bring to your attention, the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)[edit]

Just to bring to your attention that the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE) are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.

Bus Service Pages (History)[edit]

I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.

Since[edit]

Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.

Re: Bus Ads[edit]

Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.

White/blue UPD sticker[edit]

Hi,

The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.

Regards, Kay

Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages[edit]

Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.

Re: reformatting of bus service pages[edit]

Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that[edit]

Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages

Thanks

Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 5 November 2024, 12:11

Bus History page[edit]

Hi is it possible that History page be kept untouched? I nearly missed out on Sv 78's amendment to Jurong Town Hall Int when doing a complication of the bus history for today (26 November)

Loss of Bus Advertisement Information[edit]

Hi there,

It has been very long since I last spoke to you. A little mixed feelings with regards to the changes but nevertheless would wish to highlight on the removal of the bus advertisement section on bus deployments by model. This makes it harder for bus enthusiasts to track on new bus advertisements and I feel it is a real shame that all the hard work that has been done by previous editors have been put to waste.

Also, in addition to that, I feel the new organisation of information is making the rows and columns unnecessarily long and I do not think this is a good thing from a user perspective point of view (eg. The labeling for Lush Green livery across ~100 buses in rego number succession cannot even be seen easily because so many buses have this livery).

With these changes, I also wish to know if Bus Deployments by Service and Bus Deployments by Model will be completely independent and separate from each other. Because from the way I see it, editors are no longer able to update bus deployments for specific rego numbers into the new Bus Deployments by Service pages. Maybe it would be good if I could get some clarity on the overall changes and the basis for these drastic changes.

Thank you.

Themystery