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== Svc 162 Perms ==
Hi
For the Serangoon Downroute:
Mon-Thu: SG1165P
Fri: SG1101Z
Sch Hol Mon-Fri: SG1147S
The first bus from Shenton Way is 162se409 (SG1082U) from Mon-Thu and 162se509 (SG3068Z) on Fri.
Thanks
SBS2652G
== sedep deployment ==
== sedep deployment ==


seem like 269morning downroute reduce to 1 bus (1114) and thus there is crossover to 262 (6810)
1114 doing 269a on daily basis also.
== perm sticker ==
the perm sticker for citaros/KUB are on the coinbox (facing the BC).
so if you are at bus stop, might be difficult.. unless when you board the bus and sit behind the BC seat..
might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.
EDIT: amdep/brbp buses also got perm stickers on coinbox nowadays... yellow sticker... with format such 13-10 or 131-12. Not sure what is the behind digit for...


2/10 EDIT:  I think 1206 and 6784 swap.... 1206 perm sticker is gone and doing 138 this week... not so sure about 6077/6855, but guess they might be some emergency pullover during peak hours?
== Special Weekday Schedules ==


also, 1101 have svc 70 perm sticker..
Hi Jonathanchu,


6/10 EDIT: 1160 have a new perm sticker which look like 265...last 2 week there is no perm sticker..are you able to check?
As the Special Weekday Schedules is always undergoing constant changes, I only update them with the latest information when available. Currently, this schedule is suspended due to COVID-19 and there is no extension of bus operating hours or holidays that warrant the use of this schedule.
1154 is still spare, SBY sticker on coinbox.


8/10 EDIT: as for 162 fleet, not sure what info that guy have.. but he is the one who keep edit 1156 as perm 162 previously... i dun really trust his edit. .feel free to undo his edit if your observation is true.
Hope you understand. Thank you.


Themystery


14/10 EDIT: 6784 is on 261 with the 138 perm sticker. 1206 doing 138 consistently (but no perm sticker)
==Reply==
today morning 6855 is on 261  , bus in front of 6784, no perm sticker on coinbox.  did not saw 6077 though.
Hi
so think can edit 6077 perm 24..  6855 might be perm as well, while 1167 perm 24.


as for 1160, i also did not see it these few days, but it might be perm 265 cos 5232 been doing 268 same slot in am peak. will reconfirm again.
Thanks for flagging the grammar mistake. Indeed, the past participale for shorten is shortened. I had fixed the grammar mistake.


15/10 EDIT: yes. i also saw 1025 on 261... kiv first... today 1173 on 261... is there crossover duty?
Thanks and regards


1160 confirm with the new 265 perm sticker... 5232 also on 265 today..might be SP... this morning sequence is 5232/1160/1202. 1202 also gotten the 265 perm sticker (previously, there is no perm sticker)
== Reply: New front and side alert cameras on buses ==
Hi.


20/10 EDIT: i dun think those deployment are correct esp for sv71.. the same SD slots are still done by 1231/6120 at same timing. i did not see the other 2 SDs at all.
Thanks for writing in your observation. However I don't have any much knowledge on this. I believe these are being rolled out on the Tower Transit buses as well.
not sure where he got the data from, but it seem like he have access to SBST database.. as of this morning, i check SBST app, only 2 SD slots...  


6881 i saw it on 268 and one other service these few days with no perm sticker.  6810 SBY sticker removed. 1154 SBY sticker also removed.. not sure why.
I will help direct your query to [[User talk:Ihengheng|Ihengheng]].


do you think 6062 or 6568 have go to 261 while 1204 go to 268?  there are a lot of weird cameo on 268....
== RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses ==


== perm sticker ==
1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.
 
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf<br />https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf
 
2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).
 
3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.
 
https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf
 
4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.
 
Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:<br />
Without ADAS:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/<br />
With Mobileye:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/<br />
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/<br />
With DriveSafe (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/
 
Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.<br />
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg<br />
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg<br />
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/<br />
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/
 
As a summary:<br />
Buses with 1x T-FA:<br />
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid
 
Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):<br />
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently
 
Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):<br />
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)
 
Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.
 
-Ihengheng
 
== sv72 ==
 
 
 
Someone have edit the whole 72/72B perm fleet in May.. based on his insider info. He split into 72 and 72B..8 perm bus for 72B plus 5 crossover.
 
Not sure when you saw 5525 on 72, but for the past 2 week is ITE holdays. so no 72B...
 
maybe just wait till ITE term start then see again.
 
== My observations ==
 
Hi,


the perm sticker for citaros/KUB are on the coinbox (facing the BC).
I observed that SBS2003E, SBS6575U and SG1026H keep doing 135 every weekday while SBS6077R keeps doing 24 every weekday.
so if you are at bus stop, might be difficult.. unless when you board the bus and sit behind the BC seat..


might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.
Thank you.
GoAheadAmbassador


== Feeder 265 Downroutes from AMK Int ==
== Re: My Observations ==


Hi Jonathanchu,
Hi Jonathanchu,


Pardon for my request, but is it possible for you to provide me a list of buses and their departure timings of the buses performing downroutes from AMK Int? I am trying to organise the notes better. Especially when there are evening downroutes as well. Thank you.
I observed that SG1088D keeps doing 24 every weekday.


Themystery
Thank you.
 
GoAheadAmbassador

Latest revision as of 09:44, 7 March 2023

Svc 162 Perms[edit]

Hi

For the Serangoon Downroute: Mon-Thu: SG1165P Fri: SG1101Z Sch Hol Mon-Fri: SG1147S

The first bus from Shenton Way is 162se409 (SG1082U) from Mon-Thu and 162se509 (SG3068Z) on Fri.

Thanks SBS2652G

sedep deployment[edit]

seem like 269morning downroute reduce to 1 bus (1114) and thus there is crossover to 262 (6810)

1114 doing 269a on daily basis also.

perm sticker[edit]

the perm sticker for citaros/KUB are on the coinbox (facing the BC). so if you are at bus stop, might be difficult.. unless when you board the bus and sit behind the BC seat..

might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.

EDIT: amdep/brbp buses also got perm stickers on coinbox nowadays... yellow sticker... with format such 13-10 or 131-12. Not sure what is the behind digit for...

Special Weekday Schedules[edit]

Hi Jonathanchu,

As the Special Weekday Schedules is always undergoing constant changes, I only update them with the latest information when available. Currently, this schedule is suspended due to COVID-19 and there is no extension of bus operating hours or holidays that warrant the use of this schedule.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

Themystery

Reply[edit]

Hi

Thanks for flagging the grammar mistake. Indeed, the past participale for shorten is shortened. I had fixed the grammar mistake.

Thanks and regards

Reply: New front and side alert cameras on buses[edit]

Hi.

Thanks for writing in your observation. However I don't have any much knowledge on this. I believe these are being rolled out on the Tower Transit buses as well.

I will help direct your query to Ihengheng.

RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses[edit]

1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.

https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf

2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).

3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.

https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf

4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.

Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:
Without ADAS:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/
With Mobileye:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/
With DriveSafe (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/

Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/

As a summary:
Buses with 1x T-FA:
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid

Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently

Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)

Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.

-Ihengheng

sv72[edit]

Someone have edit the whole 72/72B perm fleet in May.. based on his insider info. He split into 72 and 72B..8 perm bus for 72B plus 5 crossover.

Not sure when you saw 5525 on 72, but for the past 2 week is ITE holdays. so no 72B...

maybe just wait till ITE term start then see again.

My observations[edit]

Hi,

I observed that SBS2003E, SBS6575U and SG1026H keep doing 135 every weekday while SBS6077R keeps doing 24 every weekday.

Thank you. GoAheadAmbassador

Re: My Observations[edit]

Hi Jonathanchu,

I observed that SG1088D keeps doing 24 every weekday.

Thank you.

GoAheadAmbassador

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