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I will help direct your query to [[User talk:Ihengheng|Ihengheng]].
I will help direct your query to [[User talk:Ihengheng|Ihengheng]].
== RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses ==
1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf<br />https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf
2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).
3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.
https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf
4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.
Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:<br />
Without ADAS:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/<br />
With Mobileye:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/<br />
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/<br />
With DriveSafe (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/
Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.<br />
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg<br />
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg<br />
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/<br />
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/
As a summary:<br />
Buses with 1x T-FA:<br />
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid
Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):<br />
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently
Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):<br />
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)
Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.
-Ihengheng

Revision as of 22:58, 19 December 2020

Svc 162 Perms

Hi

Indeed the electric buses do start with block numbers of 5xx

the new block numbers for non eBus (holiday12345 schedule) is 405 410 411 417 461 462 474. Of which, 461 462 474 runs on the crossovers to Service 70 now. Unfortunately I am unable to confirm the permanent buses yet as deployments are still rather messy.

Thanks SBS2652G

sedep deployment

19/11 EDIT: 1204 today on 138... seem to have a 138 perm sticker.. the bus pass by too fast to confirm..

also, can you check whether 6598 is perm 261? been doing 261 consistently..and today there is a perm sticker on coinbox (there wasnt any perm sticker in the past 2-3 week when i saw it on 261)..

1175/6575/6597 seem to be running around

1025/6580 should be 71 weekend perm bus (i counted 4 SD slot during weekend).....


saw few 135 perm bus running around.. 1234. 1000. 6573, 6584... and i think someone else have edit 6 135 citaro as SP.... now the deployment is messy... buses are running around esp due to holidays. also, can confirm 261 have 9 buses? i have been observing and never see 261 with 9 buses during am peak......

perm sticker

the perm sticker for citaros/KUB are on the coinbox (facing the BC). so if you are at bus stop, might be difficult.. unless when you board the bus and sit behind the BC seat..

might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.

Special Weekday Schedules

Hi Jonathanchu,

As the Special Weekday Schedules is always undergoing constant changes, I only update them with the latest information when available. Currently, this schedule is suspended due to COVID-19 and there is no extension of bus operating hours or holidays that warrant the use of this schedule.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

Themystery

Reply

Hi

Thanks for flagging the grammar mistake. Indeed, the past participale for shorten is shortened. I had fixed the grammar mistake.

Thanks and regards

Reply: New front and side alert cameras on buses

Hi.

Thanks for writing in your observation. However I don't have any much knowledge on this. I believe these are being rolled out on the Tower Transit buses as well.

I will help direct your query to Ihengheng.

RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses

1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.

https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf

2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).

3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.

https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf

4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.

Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:
Without ADAS:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/
With Mobileye:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/
With DriveSafe (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/

Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/

As a summary:
Buses with 1x T-FA:
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid

Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently

Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)

Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.

-Ihengheng