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==Seeking informations==
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==Pls assist to keep a lookout==
 
Hi SMB315C,
 
Hi SMB315C,
  
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Noted.
  
Regarding the topic [[SgWiki:Renaming of MAN ND323F/MAN NL323F/SCANIA K230UB (Poll/Discussion)]] and [[SgWiki:Definition of bus variant (Poll/Discussion)]], it had ended about half a year ago, I came with this conclusion, but yet to implemented. Would wish to seek your understanding first and see if it could further been fine tuned.
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Based on the following date bendy spotting for 913:
  
'''Definition of "variants" will count as changes to the bodywork, number of doors and emissions.'''
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*22/12: 8035H (Ply 913 instead of 913T)
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*28/12: 8026J & 8029B (8026J on the west loop, 8029B on east loop)
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*29/12: 8029B
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*4/1: 8014T
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*11/1: 8016M
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*12/1: 8017K
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*15/1: 8027G
  
By this definition, the following changes would be made.
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However, even the perm bendy on 912/912B are rojak. There is 2 possibility, fleet add on 912/912B, with interlining to 913, or the bendy is shared between 912/912B/913. I don't think there is a fleet add for 913, but more likely capacity upgrade or dd swop. 913T now uses more HC instead of SD as compared to the past. Regarding the bendy since Q3, I only notice 913 had random habit plying in November, then a gap (in no bendy) before happening again on the Christmas week. But overall, it a rare sight in Q3, most probably cameo.
*Scania K230UB (Euro IV Batch 1/2) → Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 1/2)
 
*Scania K230UB (Euro V Batch 1/2) → Scania K230UB (Euro V) (Batch 3/4)
 
*MAN NL323F (Batch 1/2/3) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 1/2/3)
 
*MAN NL323F (Batch 4) → MAN NL323F (Euro 6) (Batch 4)
 
*MAN ND323F (Batch 1/2/3) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 1/2/3) & MAN ND323F (Euro 6) (Batch 3)<sup>1</sup>
 
*MAN ND323F (Batch 4/5) → MAN ND323F (Euro 6) (Batch 4/5)
 
  
When editing deployment page, omit the emission.
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But more or less, I seen 8026J plying 903 more commonly than on 912/913.
  
'''Note:'''
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Thanks
*<sup>1</sup> - Splitting of SG2017C into separate page as it is Euro 6, but kept a denotation of Batch 3.
 
  
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== Photo problem ==
  
Next, 2 topics regarding the classifying of bus service has emerged, 1 that had been closed with no changes made about half a year ago, the another was made by another user as reference by the topics [[SgWiki:Page Merger/Integration (Poll/Discussion)]] and [[SgWiki:Reorganising of Bus Service Deployment by Service (Poll/Discussion)]].
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Hi SMB315C
  
I would wish to close the discussion early as a clear cut common consensus could be infer, but would made the following changes after taking into consideration.
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Can you assist in helping me turn this photo to its original position ( https://sgwiki.com/wiki/File:SBS5185T_124.jpg ), as it has made an uncommanded turn and I cannot revert it back? Thanks!
  
*All pages with more than 30 subheading will be split into smaller page to facilitate easier browsing & editing on mobile devices. This means SBS Transit Short Working Trips has to be split. But this in contrast to user Wekelwrady that had pointed out that it would broke the standardisation issue. So a counter-solution would be made as below.
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AirFan19
*Short Working Trips will be merged into Parent Service Pages, with the sub heading as Short-Trip instead of Service.
 
*Merger of [[Services 400 - 405]] and [[Services 851 - 860]] etc. would not take place. But in lieu of the GCM and how LTA like to "draw services into package" anytime, a merger of page between operators could be made so that a change of operator would not need to rename/move multiple sections.
 
**Example: Merge of [[Services 400 - 405]] and [[Service 403]] into [[Basic Services 400 - 405]] with the concept follow [[CDS Bus Deployments]] and [[Bukit Batok Feeders]].
 
**Such merger and renaming exercise will applies to others with route number such as, but not limited to Express services. Example:
 
***[[CDS Bus Deployments]] → [[City Direct Services 651 - 672]]
 
***[[NightRider Services]] → [[NightRider Services NR1 - NR8]]
 
  
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== Regarding user : Stonks ==
  
Please let me know of your suggestion.
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Hi,
  
Thanks & Regards
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I'm writing this topic in regards to a user whose name goes by "Stonks". He added many information to wiki pages which are not true to present timing. I will list some examples in this list to show his acts of vandalism. Correct me if I'm wrong, no one is allowed to add new information UNLESS they have been put into revenue service.
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'''MAN ND323F (Batch 5)'''
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1) He claimed on 30 September that there were new buses delivered to LTA Storage with 1 being delivered to HGDEP.
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https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=494938 (SG6189M > HGDEP // SG6190H - SG6206Y > LTA Storage)
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2) He then proceeded to add in a new set of registration numbers ON THE SAME DAY to LTA Storage Buses without valid evidence that either they were in Seletar Depot or in any other storage locations.
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https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=494939 (SG6207U - SG6214Z > LTA Storage)
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'''SMRT Non Revenue Buses'''
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3) He added SMB30Z (KJDEP 176 at time of edit) to SMRT Non Revenue Buses list while the specified bus was not in the laid up corner, or rather no accidents were known.
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https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Mercedes-Benz_OC500LE&diff=prev&oldid=497128
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'''City Direct 660'''
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4) He claimed that SG5900H & SG5917K were out of 660 while I spotted them physically at Shenton Way.
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https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=City_Direct_Services_651_-_672&diff=500118&oldid=500049
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5) He added SG6173H as an 856 perm without editing other pages properly such as Trunk Services 825 - 860 and other relevant pages.
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https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=498426
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Thank you for reading this post. I do hope you consider taking action against him as this is not his first offense after noticing he has a warning point on his discussion page.
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Yours sincerely,
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SG6070X
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== New front and side alert cameras on buses ==
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Hi SMB315C,
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I am writing this message regarding the new front and side alert cameras (or sensors) which are gradually being installed on SBS Transit’s Seletar Depot’s SBS-registered Batch 3 Citaros and Euro V A22s, as well as Go-Ahead’s Citaros.
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Based on my observations on SBS6568R, the first citaro to receive the new sensors, the front and back sensors are by TNT. They beep six times in a row when something is sensed, and there are the square T-Watch displays on the driver’s dashboard, very much like the sensors on the BYD K9s. My conclusion is that the sensors are the same as those on the K9s, but the side sensors were installed without being encased in white shells.
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I have been noting the buses I’ve seen with the sensors and have edited them in the specifications section of each bus model. However, I have run into several issues, which is my main reason for consulting you today.
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1) I am unsure if these buses also have the “TNT Surveillance Forward and Side collision warning system” installed as I am unsure of what to look out for.
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2) I have added the buses with the sensors under buses with “TNT Surveillance T-FA Front & Side Alert Cameras”, but however, I have noticed that the front and side cameras are in separate rows on the BYD K9 page. May I know if it will be better to separate the front and side cameras?
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3) When trying to edit the MAN A22 pages (Euro V Batches 2 and 3), I realised that 5 buses, SMB3076Y, SMB3079P, SMB3096P, SMB3097L and SMB3122Y already have the “I-SAW-U” sensors installed quite a while back. However, I remembered seeing SMB3122Y with the same TNT sensors as those on the Citaros. Therefore I am a little unsure if I even got the model of the sensors right.
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4) On the MAN A22 pages, the five buses with that particular sensor installed had their mobileye 560/630 assistance systems cancelled out. However, I do remember seeing the TNT front sensor placed at an angle above an existing sensor, which is the mobileye 560/630 sensor, on SBS6568R and SBS6592U. But the BYD K9s do not have the mobileye sensor.
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I’m really sorry that this is a really messy and unclear message but I hope you can help me clarify these issues regarding the sensors, especially if you happen to see them for yourself. The buses with the sensors so far are already listed, but it is just the model of the sensors and a few other issues which I am unclear about.
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Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it!
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Regards,
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Jonathanchu
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UPDATE: Thank you so much for your help!

Latest revision as of 15:52, 16 January 2021

Re: Service 147 duties[edit]

Hi SMB315C,

I have noted your reply. By any chance, do you happen to know the HGDEP side of duties? Thank you.

Themystery

Pls assist to keep a lookout[edit]

Hi SMB315C,

Noted.

Based on the following date bendy spotting for 913:

  • 22/12: 8035H (Ply 913 instead of 913T)
  • 28/12: 8026J & 8029B (8026J on the west loop, 8029B on east loop)
  • 29/12: 8029B
  • 4/1: 8014T
  • 11/1: 8016M
  • 12/1: 8017K
  • 15/1: 8027G

However, even the perm bendy on 912/912B are rojak. There is 2 possibility, fleet add on 912/912B, with interlining to 913, or the bendy is shared between 912/912B/913. I don't think there is a fleet add for 913, but more likely capacity upgrade or dd swop. 913T now uses more HC instead of SD as compared to the past. Regarding the bendy since Q3, I only notice 913 had random habit plying in November, then a gap (in no bendy) before happening again on the Christmas week. But overall, it a rare sight in Q3, most probably cameo.

But more or less, I seen 8026J plying 903 more commonly than on 912/913.

Thanks

Photo problem[edit]

Hi SMB315C

Can you assist in helping me turn this photo to its original position ( https://sgwiki.com/wiki/File:SBS5185T_124.jpg ), as it has made an uncommanded turn and I cannot revert it back? Thanks!

AirFan19

Regarding user : Stonks[edit]

Hi,

I'm writing this topic in regards to a user whose name goes by "Stonks". He added many information to wiki pages which are not true to present timing. I will list some examples in this list to show his acts of vandalism. Correct me if I'm wrong, no one is allowed to add new information UNLESS they have been put into revenue service.

MAN ND323F (Batch 5)

1) He claimed on 30 September that there were new buses delivered to LTA Storage with 1 being delivered to HGDEP.

https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=494938 (SG6189M > HGDEP // SG6190H - SG6206Y > LTA Storage)

2) He then proceeded to add in a new set of registration numbers ON THE SAME DAY to LTA Storage Buses without valid evidence that either they were in Seletar Depot or in any other storage locations.

https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=494939 (SG6207U - SG6214Z > LTA Storage)

SMRT Non Revenue Buses

3) He added SMB30Z (KJDEP 176 at time of edit) to SMRT Non Revenue Buses list while the specified bus was not in the laid up corner, or rather no accidents were known.

https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Mercedes-Benz_OC500LE&diff=prev&oldid=497128

City Direct 660

4) He claimed that SG5900H & SG5917K were out of 660 while I spotted them physically at Shenton Way.

https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=City_Direct_Services_651_-_672&diff=500118&oldid=500049

5) He added SG6173H as an 856 perm without editing other pages properly such as Trunk Services 825 - 860 and other relevant pages.

https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=MAN_ND323F_(Batch_5)&diff=prev&oldid=498426

Thank you for reading this post. I do hope you consider taking action against him as this is not his first offense after noticing he has a warning point on his discussion page.

Yours sincerely,

SG6070X

New front and side alert cameras on buses[edit]

Hi SMB315C,

I am writing this message regarding the new front and side alert cameras (or sensors) which are gradually being installed on SBS Transit’s Seletar Depot’s SBS-registered Batch 3 Citaros and Euro V A22s, as well as Go-Ahead’s Citaros.

Based on my observations on SBS6568R, the first citaro to receive the new sensors, the front and back sensors are by TNT. They beep six times in a row when something is sensed, and there are the square T-Watch displays on the driver’s dashboard, very much like the sensors on the BYD K9s. My conclusion is that the sensors are the same as those on the K9s, but the side sensors were installed without being encased in white shells.

I have been noting the buses I’ve seen with the sensors and have edited them in the specifications section of each bus model. However, I have run into several issues, which is my main reason for consulting you today.

1) I am unsure if these buses also have the “TNT Surveillance Forward and Side collision warning system” installed as I am unsure of what to look out for.

2) I have added the buses with the sensors under buses with “TNT Surveillance T-FA Front & Side Alert Cameras”, but however, I have noticed that the front and side cameras are in separate rows on the BYD K9 page. May I know if it will be better to separate the front and side cameras?

3) When trying to edit the MAN A22 pages (Euro V Batches 2 and 3), I realised that 5 buses, SMB3076Y, SMB3079P, SMB3096P, SMB3097L and SMB3122Y already have the “I-SAW-U” sensors installed quite a while back. However, I remembered seeing SMB3122Y with the same TNT sensors as those on the Citaros. Therefore I am a little unsure if I even got the model of the sensors right.

4) On the MAN A22 pages, the five buses with that particular sensor installed had their mobileye 560/630 assistance systems cancelled out. However, I do remember seeing the TNT front sensor placed at an angle above an existing sensor, which is the mobileye 560/630 sensor, on SBS6568R and SBS6592U. But the BYD K9s do not have the mobileye sensor.

I’m really sorry that this is a really messy and unclear message but I hope you can help me clarify these issues regarding the sensors, especially if you happen to see them for yourself. The buses with the sensors so far are already listed, but it is just the model of the sensors and a few other issues which I am unclear about.

Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it!

Regards, Jonathanchu

UPDATE: Thank you so much for your help!