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I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


===Re: Exits===


A round up to the nearest 5 minutes is a good gauge, especially when there are traffic conditions/walking speed that may give variations. I would agree to that.
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==
Hi,  


However, for rail transfer between lines, I believe there is more room to study about it. Because I think what we have never looked into is the walking distance between the lines, as well as how different stations sync their train arrivals, which translates to different station layouts. Base on my personal experience at MacPherson and Chinatown, where the transfer platforms are close to one another, some of the train arrivals sync together.
Thanks for the updates from your end.


In addition, when it comes peak hours, the frequency of trains may be shorter until one can get onto a train easily, just as the examples of the NSEWL transfer stations that you have stated. On the opposite hand during off peak hours, if one cannot get onto a train/bus that smoothly, this might take more than 10 mins waiting time. So I do not think an average of 10 min waiting time is sufficient enough for a disclaimer. I am not enough of a train expert but I would like to understand from your perspective whether my thoughts make sense.


I would strongly support the inclusion of escalators and lifts in the station layout so that people from all walks of life can find clearer and better barrier free access! :)
Before I go busy again, I would like to leave some notes behind regarding the map works.


====Update (8th Nov)====
I did some tidying up of the notes at Bendemeer, Promenade and the future Khatib (with updated TEL transfer) pages. Apologies that I read wrongly few days ago, I realised you said that the average MRT waiting time is 5 mins. Since I can agree on this point, I have put it as a 3rd pointer for all 3 pages. As for miscellaneous pointers except for road closures, they have been tucked into the respective destination stations. See if this arrangement is neater for the eye.


Side note I do disagree with the bus part though, though feeder service waiting times are guaranteed to be less than 10 minutes, a handful of trunk services might exceed 10 mins of waiting time eg. 5, 14, 39, 58, 141, 169, 855 etc., in which some might offer just single deckers. Exceptions include 63, 65, 67, 190 where buses keep spamming. Considering the demographics of the towns where the stations are located at, some crowds won't disperse that easily within 20 mins if options were to include low frequency trunk services. That's why in the case of Khatib I made a special notice at the CBD destinations that if one cannot get onto 855 or 860 on time, CDS is last resort.  
More than 85% of the stations (excluding TEL stations) that have a map uploaded have their maps mostly in newer editions. Circle Line has remarkable progress with almost the western half of the Circle done, while North South Line is mostly concentrated in the central section, and East West Line in bits. The remaining 15% of the maps are in the current old edition with minor edits due to incomplete details/complex navigation. I have left some remarks on some of the map uploads detailing the changes I will make to make navigation easier.


Others like Chinese Garden or Maxwell, where conditions are still ok, I do as per normal. Also, thank you very much for the 3/88/89/109 idea, which made much more sense!


===Re: Walking distance between two nearby stations===
SBS Transit stations differ alot in map standards and may not be interested in giving out digital copies of such newer map editions. The only exception was the physical map in Chinatown where I wrote to LTA back in May 2022 questioning a DTL1 era map dated back to 2013 and it took them till CNY 2024 to give out a new edition. Again, they only stretched the blue line in the online edition that I had to go down to the station to take a photo and scan the image to here.


Yes, I had also thought about walking between two stations before. Same had applied to walking from Marina Bay to Bayfront. However, my main concern is getting people to have a familiar sense of direction, especially those with poor navigation skills. Coincidentally, I had one real life experience where I once had tried to explain to an elderly person how to walk from CPF Maxwell to Outram Park where SGH is at, and it was extremely frustrating that I eventually showed the way under my guidance. That has been one tricky part, you know HAHAHAHAHA. As you know, Maxwell is one of those places with poor bus connections, not even one to Outram, so it has been something I had tried to figure out. I would consider it lucky that Service 80 was amended to detour around Cantonment in Sengkang direction, at least something to connect to Maxwell with a direct transfer!


Nonetheless if we want to include walking, I think we can just elaborate with road names people are familiar with, since Maxwell MRT Exit 3 is right at the entrance of Kreta Ayer Rd leading to New Bridge Rd.
Thus, I am trying to figure out the tools required to make complete upgrades featured in newer edition maps and hopefully, I will be able to stride in this progress. Thanks and Regards


====Update (12th Nov)====
== Reply: Fleet Size of 912 ==
Despite a lot of work to catch up, I made an experimental attempt to indicate walking directions for Maxwell and the new Marina Bay page. See if it works well.
Hi.
 
===Adding travelling time/Choa Chu Kang===
I have partially completed a study on the frequency of various bus services and waiting times at certain bus stops.
 
Assuming number of bus services = x (including full day trunk variants)
 
Some findings via the API arrivals show that when x=4, waiting time for bus services is shorter at 5 - 10 min range. If x=3, waiting time is as per normal at 10 - 15 min range, in sync with your point of 15 minutes maximum waiting time. So I came to a conclusion that:
 
*I concede that a PIE Stevens - BKE Woodlands travel time may not be as good as I think.
 
*A cluster of 20+ services in a CBD bus stop may not necessarily mean 20 min maximum travel, but 10 min maximum travel due to shorter waiting times of 5 mins.
 
*A few bus services have shorter waiting times than normal trunk/feeder services. Most schedules and frequencies remain unchanged during school days and holidays. I have come up with the following.
 
'''Trunk (5 - 10 mins)''': 36, 168, 190, 975
 
'''Feeder (3 - 7 mins)''': 807
 
857 will continue to be studied in real life due to an inconsistency of missing buses in API arrival timings.


*I will make a list of bus stops with x>=4 bus services on my own page and list out the waiting times accordingly.
I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.


I have done a sample for Choa Chu Kang, awaiting your approval and comments before our mass implementation of travel times.
== Concourse and exit layout WIP ==


== Regards about autoblock ==
Bedok draft has been sketched from Photoshop, and I am on my way to collect more icons, and will make a visit to Admiralty probably next week to trial a similar layout.
 
Hi.


I just clarify that while editing the relevant pages, I got autoblocked by 7343Bus. So I just have to wait for the autoblock lapses right? Just clarifying because I never complete the relevant pages that I just need to do. In case you need autoblock ID, the number is #21221.
Current elevator dimension is 160x160 on a side note.


Regards
As discussed before, I agree that there is indeed a need for a file sharing system, especially for icons. Thanks and Regards
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Rail Wiki Expansion

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades

Hi,

Thanks for the updates from your end.


Before I go busy again, I would like to leave some notes behind regarding the map works.


More than 85% of the stations (excluding TEL stations) that have a map uploaded have their maps mostly in newer editions. Circle Line has remarkable progress with almost the western half of the Circle done, while North South Line is mostly concentrated in the central section, and East West Line in bits. The remaining 15% of the maps are in the current old edition with minor edits due to incomplete details/complex navigation. I have left some remarks on some of the map uploads detailing the changes I will make to make navigation easier.


SBS Transit stations differ alot in map standards and may not be interested in giving out digital copies of such newer map editions. The only exception was the physical map in Chinatown where I wrote to LTA back in May 2022 questioning a DTL1 era map dated back to 2013 and it took them till CNY 2024 to give out a new edition. Again, they only stretched the blue line in the online edition that I had to go down to the station to take a photo and scan the image to here.


Thus, I am trying to figure out the tools required to make complete upgrades featured in newer edition maps and hopefully, I will be able to stride in this progress. Thanks and Regards

Reply: Fleet Size of 912

Hi.

I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.

Concourse and exit layout WIP

Bedok draft has been sketched from Photoshop, and I am on my way to collect more icons, and will make a visit to Admiralty probably next week to trial a similar layout.

Current elevator dimension is 160x160 on a side note.

As discussed before, I agree that there is indeed a need for a file sharing system, especially for icons. Thanks and Regards

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