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==CBD to Marsiling, Bus or MRT (Pin for reference, do not remove)==
==Re: Alternative Travel Options==
Hi, after comptempting your reasoning for Marsiling and done some additional research this is what I had observed:
Hi
* Travelling time for 190/972 from CBD to Bukit Panjang is approx 40 mins.
* Travelling time for 187/963/966 from Bukit Panjang to Marsiling is approx 25 mins.
* Travelling time for DTL/CCL/TEL from Newton to Woodlands is approx 40 mins.
* Travelling time for 187/856/925/925M/960/961/961M/963/966 from Woodlands to Marsiling is approx 10 mins.
* Travelling time for 972M from Dhoby Ghaut to Newton is approx 10 mins.


Therefore, the conclusion that I could infer is:
Noted about your opinion about keeping the entire line for the ease of dispersal and waiting time during large-scale disruption.
* Newton: MRT to Woodlands, transfer by bus is much faster (Time saving of 15 mins).
* Orchard - Dhoby Ghaut: If there is direct bus to Bukit Panjang which heavily uses BKE/PIE, then the travelling time is on par with MRT (currently).
** The travelling time to Newton actually offset the time saving of 15 mins in the first case.


Some remarks that I noticed:
In the example of what I seek earlier, if there is a large-scale disruption where the whole line is affected (Using Pasir Ris – Boon Lay), FBB are activated based on the following cases.
* 960 to Bukit Panjang MRT is much slower than DTL, as it winds in Bukit Panjang (From BKE, go to Pending, Petir then Bukit Panjang, following the LRT tracks), where the most direct route is taken by 187, which deviate from the LRT tracks.
* Ad-hoc/Unplanned disruption (To be confirmed/ Waiting for case study as recently there isn’t):
** Operators in charge of any affected sectors (in the case of EWL: All operators) will ply the full route – 1FBB service from end to end, e.g. Pasir Ris to Tuas Link. I had seen Tower Transit bus plying Route familiarisation for TEL TE1 to TE9 even though is under SMRT, and SMRT doing it for TE9 to TE22 even though is under Tower Transit
** In the event of large-scale disruption, special express variants will be operated, plying at KEY MRT stops (or high commuters flow stops only, e.g. Skipping stations like Kembangan, Simei)
* Planned disruption:
** Operators in charge of the affected sectors ply only its affected sectors. Commuters are advised to change shuttle to continuing their journey.


===Add on:===
Regarding alternative, I thought that the West is similar to the East where finding alternative is easier within the same area in those sections. I only know the North is screwed-up as alternative is very complicated due to the limited bus route. Hahaha. But nevertheless, let us try our best to provide the best route, we would not know if someone managed to find another better alternative.
Nowadays, bus crawls on expressway. For example, in the past, I can take 858 from Khatib and reach Changi T3 within 30 mins, but nowadays its usually 45 mins, despite no traffic. I also remember there once time I regret taking 960e from Rochor to Woodlands as it took approx 1 hour (thanks to bus crawling on highway to keep to schedule). Usually, when I took 187/963/966 from Blk 270 to Woodlands, it took about 30-35 mins. So if work out to be 20-25 mins to Marsiling. I believed the speed reduction is due to the BCM on-time tracking bah. Occasionally, I manage to take trip which had what you mention the time period (driver's factor play a role). Sadly, I missed those day where buses literally speed down the expressway...


Reply: Yes, really a pity......
Thanks for your help in maintaining & updating sgWiki! :)


===TEL3/Diversions affecting alternative travel methods===
Regards
Hi,
 
Yes, stations like Bayfront, Orchard etc keep on having road diversion, especially on large scale, but I feel that this can be made on the sidenote first. It seems that past breakdowns and disruptions don't really occur (or like to occur) when major events happen (never heard of 1 incident before). But as Morphy's Law applies, it may happen sooner also. Also notice there a trend in breakdown, with weekdays having the most occurence, and once in a blue moon is Saturday, Sunday and Public Holidays.
 
As for TEL3, you may feel free to include in first. I am in the midst of analysing the bus bridging stops and the distance between stations. In my opinion, the breakdown could be relatively simple.
 
* The breakdown will follow like the rest of the line
* TE1 to TE10 = 1 section
* TE11 to TE20 = 1 section
* TE21 to TE22 = 1 section
** As of now we keep TEL1+TEL2 && TEL3 as 2 sections because TE10 and TE21 not in operation. So TE22 alone not justify for 1 new section I feel.
 
Noted and thanks!
 
== Travel Time (East to West) ==
Hi,
 
For Pasir Ris to Jurong East (in the event of EWL down), do you think the following route would be much faster than going to Bus -> Kaki Bukit -> Buona Vista -> Bus?
*3/88/109 to TPE (Bef Punggol Road) <-- This 1 roughly 20 mins I feel.
*858/969 from TPE (Bef Punggol Road) to Khatib MRT <-- This 1 roughly 20 mins
*NSL from Khatib all the way to Jurong East <-- This 1 just 40 mins.
 
Thanks & Regards

Revision as of 16:31, 16 April 2024

Just discuss below.


Re: Alternative Travel Options

Hi

Noted about your opinion about keeping the entire line for the ease of dispersal and waiting time during large-scale disruption.

In the example of what I seek earlier, if there is a large-scale disruption where the whole line is affected (Using Pasir Ris – Boon Lay), FBB are activated based on the following cases.

  • Ad-hoc/Unplanned disruption (To be confirmed/ Waiting for case study as recently there isn’t):
    • Operators in charge of any affected sectors (in the case of EWL: All operators) will ply the full route – 1FBB service from end to end, e.g. Pasir Ris to Tuas Link. I had seen Tower Transit bus plying Route familiarisation for TEL TE1 to TE9 even though is under SMRT, and SMRT doing it for TE9 to TE22 even though is under Tower Transit
    • In the event of large-scale disruption, special express variants will be operated, plying at KEY MRT stops (or high commuters flow stops only, e.g. Skipping stations like Kembangan, Simei)
  • Planned disruption:
    • Operators in charge of the affected sectors ply only its affected sectors. Commuters are advised to change shuttle to continuing their journey.

Regarding alternative, I thought that the West is similar to the East where finding alternative is easier within the same area in those sections. I only know the North is screwed-up as alternative is very complicated due to the limited bus route. Hahaha. But nevertheless, let us try our best to provide the best route, we would not know if someone managed to find another better alternative.

Thanks for your help in maintaining & updating sgWiki! :)

Regards

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