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==Re: Alternative Travel Options==
Hi


== Travel Time (East to West) ==
Noted about your opinion about keeping the entire line for the ease of dispersal and waiting time during large-scale disruption.
Hi,


For Pasir Ris to Jurong East (in the event of EWL down), do you think the following route would be much faster than going to Bus -> Kaki Bukit -> Buona Vista -> Bus?
In the example of what I seek earlier, if there is a large-scale disruption where the whole line is affected (Using Pasir Ris – Boon Lay), FBB are activated based on the following cases.
*3/88/109 to TPE (Bef Punggol Road) <-- This 1 roughly 20 mins I feel.
* Ad-hoc/Unplanned disruption (To be confirmed/ Waiting for case study as recently there isn’t):
*858/969 from TPE (Bef Punggol Road) to Khatib MRT <-- This 1 roughly 20 mins
** Operators in charge of any affected sectors (in the case of EWL: All operators) will ply the full route – 1FBB service from end to end, e.g. Pasir Ris to Tuas Link. I had seen Tower Transit bus plying Route familiarisation for TEL TE1 to TE9 even though is under SMRT, and SMRT doing it for TE9 to TE22 even though is under Tower Transit
*NSL from Khatib all the way to Jurong East <-- This 1 just 40 mins.
** In the event of large-scale disruption, special express variants will be operated, plying at KEY MRT stops (or high commuters flow stops only, e.g. Skipping stations like Kembangan, Simei)
* Planned disruption:
** Operators in charge of the affected sectors ply only its affected sectors. Commuters are advised to change shuttle to continuing their journey.


Thanks & Regards
Regarding alternative, I thought that the West is similar to the East where finding alternative is easier within the same area in those sections. I only know the North is screwed-up as alternative is very complicated due to the limited bus route. Hahaha. But nevertheless, let us try our best to provide the best route, we would not know if someone managed to find another better alternative.


===RE: 81===
Thanks for your help in maintaining & updating sgWiki! :)
According to Transitlink: Svc 81 from Pasir Ris to Kovan is around 40 mins, from my rail experience, Kovan to Buona Vista is around 35 mins (25 mins CCL, 5 mins transfer, 5 mins NEL). Based on this 2 the time taken should already far exceed the long north detour path. I think this was partial cause we make full use of the TPE "Express" trunk routes. Do correct me wrong if the bus trip timing is wrong. Cause I don't really take those services.


On the side note, should we include the estimated travel time so it would be easier to benchmark in the future?
Regards
 
===Re: Exits ===
Good idea. I did for the [[Alternative Travel Method/Pasir Ris]] for between Expo & Changi Airport. See if it looks goods?
 
For travel time, let round it to the nearer 5 mins, cause some route may deviate from each other between 1-2 mins?, so a 5 mins deviation should be ok. Then if other alternative come we can help to benchmark those if it offers quick alternative. Maybe we need to include disclaimer that is an estimate and it may varies.
 
Secondly, for rail transfer between lines is usually 5 mins, even for Jurong East, City Hall and Raffles Place thanks to the mismatch of trains arriving/departing. For Bus I feel a waiting time of 10 mins should be average? so we can include those in disclaimer.
 
I now developing the new station layout format for more information and clarity, feel more can be included. Maybe escalator and lift according to the carriage diagram like those in Japan/Korea? Let me know your take.
 
===Re: MRT Transfer Time===
I had transfer quite a lots of time between the various line at Jurong East, Caldecott, Bishan, Paya Lebar, Buona Vista, City Hall/Raffles Place, Dhoby Ghaut, Newton during peak hours/off-peaks and 5 minutes transfer time are included in the walking/waiting time in average.
 
Trains between different lines are typically sync according to walking time. So after a walk transfer, 1 would usually do not need to wait, or at most 2 minutes between transfer of lines. This is exception to NS-EW transfer. The NS-EW transfer at Jurong East/City Hall/Raffles Place are by luck and direction (most of the time are just missed a train or 1 minutes wait), but usually trains arrived at 5 minutes, with peak hours may need to miss a train at times (so equal to 5 minutes) due to overcrowding.
 
For EW-CG transfer at Tanah Merah, 5 minutes are enough as trains arrive at every 8 minutes, stop at platform for 3 minutes which covered most cases. So rail transfer is roughly 5 minutes. I not too sure about buses, but most of the time between transferring of bus can be done in 10 minutes after factoring in waiting time, rarely exceeding 10 minutes in both peaks and off-peak based on my experience.
 
===Re: Transfer Time===
Looks good, but the 3rd pointer on those pages doesn't hold any meaning if we are not going to include the estimated travel time. I'm more concerned about the transfer time, as how can 1 route alternative is better than the other in terms of time when trains break down?
 
As for the dispersion of the crowd, I am not that afraid as the crowd itself will be dispersed based on their end destination. Furthermore, commuters may reach different destinations and hence it is an auto dispersion without the need to cater to many routes. There is always a Rail Bridging Service available when train breakdown, abit - those never always be ready when we need it. hahaha. But it will come surely.
 
I think the format being tucked inside is good, maybe collapsible, as this is an odd chance it will happen and it's more of a remark.
 
Reply: Noted suggestions.
 
==Re: Walking ==
It looks ok. however, I had a concern about walking between BayFront and Marina Bay. Even though it look short and near, however, I noticed that BayFront MRT is located nearer to the North side of MBS (Floating Platform/NS Square that area) instead of the South side of MBS. This means that we need to factor in the additional walking distance of 100 to 200m.
 
I had modified/remove based on the travel time & waiting time. I compiled it into [[User:Supernutorcrazy/Travel Time]] for certain legs. Some assumptions that I made:
* MRT = Waiting Time = 5 mins, transfer time neglectable as it part of waiting time due to train arriving and departing is close to sync after transfer for all lines.
* Feeder Service = 10 mins waiting time in average.
* Trunk Service = 15 mins waiting time in average.
* Train Travel Time = Based on the fastest travel time of each leg according to First/Last Train.
* Bus Travel Time = From Transitlink website, rounded to the nearest 5 minutes.
 
==Travelling between Maxwell & Outram Park==
Hi, would walking be faster than bus between this 2 pair. Distance wise should be around 300-500m, and roughly map into 5 mins walk?
 
===Re: Road Name===
Good idea to include the road name to help, furthermore, we can also include the exit number/letters to help also. Yes, I do agree that Maxwell is not really connected by bus due to the 1 direction road network so I also scratching my head on how the rail briging service will works also.

Revision as of 16:31, 16 April 2024

Just discuss below.


Re: Alternative Travel Options

Hi

Noted about your opinion about keeping the entire line for the ease of dispersal and waiting time during large-scale disruption.

In the example of what I seek earlier, if there is a large-scale disruption where the whole line is affected (Using Pasir Ris – Boon Lay), FBB are activated based on the following cases.

  • Ad-hoc/Unplanned disruption (To be confirmed/ Waiting for case study as recently there isn’t):
    • Operators in charge of any affected sectors (in the case of EWL: All operators) will ply the full route – 1FBB service from end to end, e.g. Pasir Ris to Tuas Link. I had seen Tower Transit bus plying Route familiarisation for TEL TE1 to TE9 even though is under SMRT, and SMRT doing it for TE9 to TE22 even though is under Tower Transit
    • In the event of large-scale disruption, special express variants will be operated, plying at KEY MRT stops (or high commuters flow stops only, e.g. Skipping stations like Kembangan, Simei)
  • Planned disruption:
    • Operators in charge of the affected sectors ply only its affected sectors. Commuters are advised to change shuttle to continuing their journey.

Regarding alternative, I thought that the West is similar to the East where finding alternative is easier within the same area in those sections. I only know the North is screwed-up as alternative is very complicated due to the limited bus route. Hahaha. But nevertheless, let us try our best to provide the best route, we would not know if someone managed to find another better alternative.

Thanks for your help in maintaining & updating sgWiki! :)

Regards

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