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==Opinion==
== Re: Evaluation on 117/M ==
Hi,
 
Thank you for sharing your feedback on the proposed changes earlier. I am pleased to inform you that the bus spotting page has been launched, which I believe will assist editors in verifying deployment accuracy and enhancing the reliability of current deployment information.
 
To address concerns regarding potential false entries on the spotting page, I trust in the integrity of our editors to avoid posting hypothetical or inaccurate information. Additionally, I have implemented features such as Date/Time stamps and Editor attribution to reinforce accountability.
 
Regarding the subpages, I have launched the following: [[Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)]]. Deployment details have been transferred to the respective subpages.
 
As a trial, I finalised the layout for the first subpage: [[Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)/1]], incorporating your valuable feedback.
 
Please confirm if the following criteria are met:
# Clear visibility and usability on mobile devices.
# Ease of information references.
 
If you have additional suggestions for improving the subpage layout, please do not hesitate to share your input. Thank you for your time and constructive feedback.
 
Regards, Supernutorcrazy
 
==Concern regarding SBS6709B on routes 129 and 293==
 
I edited the page because someone informed me that he was in a Discord server where a user once claimed that SBS6709B was always seen on route 129 instead of route 293, and that they take route 129 everyday.
 
Please check again on your edits. Thanks. GyecheonSageori (aka Gye) ([[User Talk:GyecheonSageori|talk,]]) 14:15, 31 December 2024 (+08)
 
== New First Bus Last Bus Template ==


Hi Alphabetlorefan1,
Hi Alphabetlorefan1,


Please take note, new FBLB Template is already in effect.
Would like to approach you for an evaluation on the possibility of creating 117/M under one single page, as you have expressed interest in completing 117/M.


Do use the new template to fill in the FBLB timings for bus service pages (refer to 856 or 969).
As 117A is running during 117M operating hours but counted as a short-trip service under 117, there may be an instance of confusion, given that 117 starts later on paper. Furthermore, 117 and 117M's only difference is in Seletar, in which both routes may not see any long-term amendments other than Seletar. Hence, the table below attempts to address the difference with alternate operating hours by the parent route and route variant under one combined page.  


Thanks and Regards
I am currently also waiting for admin's response before I proceed to create other services that fall under the same example with 117/M. Do share your opinions and thoughts on the idea. Thanks.


== Commendation ==
{| class='wikitable' style='text-align:center;'
Really tough but good job for taking the time to create service pages. Continue with what u are working on the services in ascending order (it's alr a good direction), I have also provided most pics to the best of my ability. When I have time I will fill in the blank boxes for first bus last bus timings in certain svc pages.
!Departure Period<br>(Weekdays)
 
!Service Available
===Merging of Euro Emission & Batches===
!Passing through
Hi,
|-
 
|<font size=3>05:30 – 08:00</font>
Do you think we should merge the Euro Emission and Batches as we moves to subpage. This make it easier to link from Deployment by service pages back to model, and bus community will find it easier to find/track a bus rather than remembering the batches.
|<font size=5>'''117M'''</font>
 
|style='text-align:left;'|
So it will be like this:
* West Camp Road
* '''Seletar Aerospace Crescent'''
* '''Seletar Aerospace Link'''
* Seletar Aerospace Drive
|-
|<font size=3>08:15 – 16:50</font>
|<font size=5>'''117'''</font>
|style='text-align:left;'|
* West Camp Road
* Seletar Aerospace Drive
|-
|<font size=3>17:00 – 19:00</font>
|<font size=5>'''117M'''</font>
|style='text-align:left;'|
* West Camp Road
* '''Seletar Aerospace Crescent '''
* '''Seletar Aerospace Link'''
* Seletar Aerospace Drive
|-
|<font size=3>19:15 – 23:30</font>
|<font size=5>'''117'''</font>
|style='text-align:left;'|
* West Camp Road
* Seletar Aerospace Drive
|}


{|class='wikitable sortable'
<div class="mw-collapsible">
!style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=|bgop=a0}}' width=10%|Registration no.
<p class='exc'>[Show/Hide Full Route Details]</p>
!style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=|bgop=a0}}' width=10%|Deployment
{| class="wikitable"
!style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=|bgop=a0}}' width=10%|Batches (Optional Column)
!rowspan=2 style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Bus Stops
!class=unsortable style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=|bgop=a0}}text-align:center' width=40%|Advertisement
!rowspan=2 style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Point of Interest
!class=unsortable style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=|bgop=a0}}text-align:center' width=40%|Former Deployments
!colspan=2 style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Weekdays
!colspan=2 style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Saturdays
!colspan=2 style='{{CSS/BUS|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Suns / PHs
|-
!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|First bus!!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Last bus
!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|First bus!!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Last bus
!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|First bus!!style='{{CSS/LTA|xfc=|xbc=}}'|Last bus
|-
|{{BS68181|swt=<br><font size=3>'''<center>({{Bus/117|a=M}} only)</center>'''</font>}}
{{Bus/FBLB|05:50/08:23<br>(117M)|17:24/19:23<br>(117M)|sa=|su=|fr=}}
|colspan=4 {{N/A}}
|}
|}


Bodywork differences such as Volvo B9TL CDGE/WEG/Gemilang will not be affected, similiarily to 2D/3D variants.
===Update===
Good afternoon Alphabetlorefan1,


== Reply ==
The admin has given his reply that it is possible to create 117/M under one single page. The 117/M page creation will be yours as usual. If you wish to discuss this further, do let me know.


You are welcome.
Thank you.


I put into consideration that there are at least 5 editors that are checking work when new bus service pages are created, but these checks also need to be reasonably allocated to existing bus service pages that have teething issues. As you know, sgwiki has already been in the eyes of social media, therefore a proper auditing system needs to be in place to make corrections. It would be inefficient and of no use if we rush in creating bus service pages on the pretext that "only a few services are left" and end up having a bad legacy for discrepancies for the entire project on bus service pages. We are aiming for the one positive remark that our efforts in this project bear fruitful results.
== Lets sum this up ==


On a side note, <br>
Good to see you having a batch of images you uploaded. But due to some reasons, you have to be aware of something because one of them told me everything in my talk page.
- for new amendment posters that come out, put in black before the route amendment date.<br>
- for service posters with updated first bus/last bus timings, put in dark blue.


I don't have much time in sgwiki left though I am doing my best to contribute whatever I can, because I also have real life jobs to juggle with.
With this, we recommend you to read this: https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/CA2021 and https://support.google.com/legal/answer/3463239?hl=en


I wish you all the best in transforming the wiki.
Before you can proceed off, ah my brain feels relaxed


==Re: Bus Interchange hyperlink==
== Re: Bus Service Page creation ==
Looks good. The only think is Woodlands Interchange. The Woodlands Interchange shared the same infrastructure as Woodlands MRT, meaning Woodlands Interchange Exit 1 is the same as Woodlands MRT Exit 1 etc...
 
I had done for Punggol Int, which also implement the landmark/attraction thing for standardisation and updated the following pages:
* Punggol station
* Punggol LRT Bridging Service
* Bus Service 384
 
Do let me know if this is ok.
 
== “Shifting away from watermarked images” ==
 
Hi, my main concern is that the non-watermarked images have much lower quality compared to the watermarked (landtransportguru) ones. Because my opinion on this is that what is the point of using non-watermarked images when you can’t even really clearly see much, and the watermark on the LTG images are also not that obvious on first glance. Thx.
~LTA Bus Irrationalisation
 
== Notice of Free to use Sgwiki images for svc 10x series ==
 
Hi,
 
To support and help speed up your work, the following images are free for your use.
 
File:SBS8650Y 100.jpg <br>
File:SBS8162P 101.jpg <br>
File:SG5956Y 102.jpg <br>
File:SBS8680K 103.jpg <br>
File:SG3023C 105.jpg (permission sorted out and asked from owner) <br>
File:SG3105A 107.jpg <br>
File:SG6356Y 107M.jpg <br>
File:SBS7608C 109.jpg <br>
 
This is to increase productivity for work on the new bus service pages and decreases the time needed to search for other images online.
 
I will also work on speeding up the upgrade of bus stop templates.
 
One more thing to add on, images should have destinations displayed, not just numbers or greetings.
 
Thanks and Regards
 
<!-- Remember to ask for permission as the images are coming in large quantities from one photographer. You may not know the owners' reaction when he/she finds out alot of their pics are uploaded onto the wiki !-->
 
===Update===
Hi, this is to fully confirm that you can start work on 100, 105, 107/M and 109. Thanks and Regards


===Reply===
Good evening Alphabetlorefan1,


Hi,
Noted your remarks, I can understand where you are coming from. I will proceed with 179/A when I feel the time is right.


Thanks for the heads up. If you have time to spare, would appreciate your assistance in upgrading other bus service pages.  
In addition, I also plan to take on some of the remaining services that you have announced that you will take over, I now have lesser free time, I feel that it is time to speed up the processes and focus more on page maintenance thereafter. Will that be fine with you as well?


Thanks and Regards
Thanks

Revision as of 18:49, 30 March 2025

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Re: Evaluation on 117/M

Hi Alphabetlorefan1,

Would like to approach you for an evaluation on the possibility of creating 117/M under one single page, as you have expressed interest in completing 117/M.

As 117A is running during 117M operating hours but counted as a short-trip service under 117, there may be an instance of confusion, given that 117 starts later on paper. Furthermore, 117 and 117M's only difference is in Seletar, in which both routes may not see any long-term amendments other than Seletar. Hence, the table below attempts to address the difference with alternate operating hours by the parent route and route variant under one combined page.

I am currently also waiting for admin's response before I proceed to create other services that fall under the same example with 117/M. Do share your opinions and thoughts on the idea. Thanks.

Departure Period
(Weekdays) 		Service Available Passing through
05:30 – 08:00 117M
  • West Camp Road
  • Seletar Aerospace Crescent
  • Seletar Aerospace Link
  • Seletar Aerospace Drive
08:15 – 16:50 117
  • West Camp Road
  • Seletar Aerospace Drive
17:00 – 19:00 117M
  • West Camp Road
  • Seletar Aerospace Crescent
  • Seletar Aerospace Link
  • Seletar Aerospace Drive
19:15 – 23:30 117
  • West Camp Road
  • Seletar Aerospace Drive
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[Show/Hide Full Route Details]

Bus Stops Point of Interest Weekdays Saturdays Suns / PHs
First bus Last bus First bus Last bus First bus Last bus
icon
68181
Bef JTC Aerospace
Seletar A'space Lk

(117M only)
 05:50/08:23
(117M)		17:24/19:23
(117M)		 N/A

Update

Good afternoon Alphabetlorefan1,

The admin has given his reply that it is possible to create 117/M under one single page. The 117/M page creation will be yours as usual. If you wish to discuss this further, do let me know.

Thank you.

Lets sum this up

Good to see you having a batch of images you uploaded. But due to some reasons, you have to be aware of something because one of them told me everything in my talk page.

With this, we recommend you to read this: https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/CA2021 and https://support.google.com/legal/answer/3463239?hl=en

Before you can proceed off, ah my brain feels relaxed

Re: Bus Service Page creation

Good evening Alphabetlorefan1,

Noted your remarks, I can understand where you are coming from. I will proceed with 179/A when I feel the time is right.

In addition, I also plan to take on some of the remaining services that you have announced that you will take over, I now have lesser free time, I feel that it is time to speed up the processes and focus more on page maintenance thereafter. Will that be fine with you as well?

Thanks

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