Difference between revisions of "Volvo B10M Mark IV (DM3500)"
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'''SBS2710Y²''' (BNDEP 28)<br> | '''SBS2710Y²''' (BNDEP 28)<br> | ||
'''SBS2711U''' (BNDEP 15)<br> | '''SBS2711U''' (BNDEP 15)<br> | ||
'''SBS2712S²''' ( | '''SBS2712S²''' (BNDEP SP) - Subway<br> | ||
'''SBS2713P²''' (SLBP 66) - Citibank Ready Credit<br> | '''SBS2713P²''' (SLBP 66) - Citibank Ready Credit<br> | ||
'''SBS2714L²''' (SLBP 66) - Clarityne & Clarinase - Allergy Relief<br> | '''SBS2714L²''' (SLBP 66) - Clarityne & Clarinase - Allergy Relief<br> | ||
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'''SBS2775K²''' (ARBP 175)<br> | '''SBS2775K²''' (ARBP 175)<br> | ||
'''SBS2776H''' (BBDEP 33)<br> | '''SBS2776H''' (BBDEP 33)<br> | ||
'''SBS2777E²''' ( | '''SBS2777E²''' (BNDEP SP)<br> | ||
'''SBS2778C²''' (BBDEP 166/555*)<br> | '''SBS2778C²''' (BBDEP 166/555*)<br> | ||
'''SBS2779A¹''' (HGDEP 107) ''[EDS front & side]'' - '''F2:''' Nokia Music Mobile (4th Version - Nokia 5320 XpressMusic: Grey/Blue)<br> | '''SBS2779A¹''' (HGDEP 107) ''[EDS front & side]'' - '''F2:''' Nokia Music Mobile (4th Version - Nokia 5320 XpressMusic: Grey/Blue)<br> | ||
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'''SBS2793H²''' (BRBP 88) - Systema<br> | '''SBS2793H²''' (BRBP 88) - Systema<br> | ||
'''SBS2794E²''' (BNDEP 19)<br> | '''SBS2794E²''' (BNDEP 19)<br> | ||
'''SBS2795C¹''' ( | '''SBS2795C¹''' (BNDEP SP)<br> | ||
'''SBS2796A²''' (BBDEP SP)<br> | '''SBS2796A²''' (BBDEP SP)<br> | ||
'''SBS2797Y''' (HGDEP 100) - iNova Pharmaceuticals: Difflam (2nd Gen)<br> | '''SBS2797Y''' (HGDEP 100) - iNova Pharmaceuticals: Difflam (2nd Gen)<br> |
Revision as of 10:25, 2 February 2009
Specifications
- Registration No.: SBS2689B - SBS2838M
- Country of Chassis : Sweden
- Bodywork: Duple Metsec
- Engine : Volvo DH10A (Euro 2, 285bhp, mid-mounted, turbocharged)
- Engine Capacity : 9,603 cc
- Gearbox : Voith DIWA 863.3 (3-speed automatic)
- Passenger Capacity :
- Seating : 46
- Standing : 41
- Total : 87
- Seating : 46
- Air-Con: Sutrak
- Special Features:
- Plug door exit (SBS2754X)
- Orange EDS (SBS2779A)
- Plug door exit (SBS2754X)
Deployments
SBS2689B² (BBDEP 92) - B: Market Place @ one-north
SBS2690X² (BNDEP 10)
SBS2691T² (HGDEP 147)
SBS2692R² (HGDEP 158)
SBS2693M² (HGDEP 51) - Nikon Coolpix S60
SBS2694K² (HGDEP 82/EB1)
SBS2695H (HGDEP 163) - B: Prudential's Personal Accident Policies
SBS2696E¹ (HGDEP 80) - F2: Nokia Music Mobile (4th Version - Nokia 5320 XpressMusic: Grey)
SBS2697C (HGDEP 43/EB31) - Naturel Butter: Join The Naturel Living, Eat Right.
SBS2698A² (HGDEP 156/119/578*)
SBS2699Y² (BNDEP 10)
SBS2700B² (BNDEP 222/30e*)
SBS2701Z² (ARBP 95)
SBS2702X² (BBDEP 92) - NEA: Dengue Kills. What will dengue cost you today?
SBS2703T² (HGDEP 161) - Bee Cheng Hiang (feat. Zoe Tay)
SBS2704R² (SLBP 66) - B: BreadTalk @ Jurong Point Extension
SBS2705M² (HGDEP 43/581*)
SBS2706K² (BNDEP 9)
SBS2707H² (ARBP 48) - B: Oasis Magazine
SBS2708E² (BBDEP 96) - DSTA Careers
SBS2709C² (HGDEP 147/532*) - Huggies Ultra
SBS2710Y² (BNDEP 28)
SBS2711U (BNDEP 15)
SBS2712S² (BNDEP SP) - Subway
SBS2713P² (SLBP 66) - Citibank Ready Credit
SBS2714L² (SLBP 66) - Clarityne & Clarinase - Allergy Relief
SBS2715J (AMDEP 162)
SBS2716G² (BNDEP 12) - Magnum Ice Cream: White Magic
SBS2717D² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2718B² (HGDEP 156) - B: QBB Ghee
SBS2719Z² (ARBP 272)
SBS2720T² (ARBP 16) - HSBC Womens' Champions (2nd Gen - The Champions Showdown)
SBS2721R (BBDEP SP)
SBS2722M (AMDEP 21) - FS: JetStar Asia
SBS2723K (BBDEP 74/74e*) - VR-10 Returns
SBS2724H² (BBDEP SP) - FS: MediaRing MobileVoIP
SBS2725E² (BNDEP 58) - Naturel Butter: Join The Naturel Living, Eat Right.
SBS2726C (BBDEP 506)
SBS2727A² (ARBP 5) - B: Oasis Magazine
SBS2728Y (BBDEP 285)
SBS2729U² (BNDEP 518/518A*) - Underwater World
SBS2730P² (BNDEP 38) - NEA - Dengue Kills: What will Dengue cost you today?
SBS2731L² (BBDEP 506)
SBS2732J² (ARBP 123)
SBS2733G² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2734D² (BBDEP 506)
SBS2735B² (HGDEP 163) - Sato Healthcare Innovation: Sato Q10 Beauty Product Range (feat. Kanny Theng)
SBS2736Z (HGDEP 158) - Yokoso Japan
SBS2737X² (BBDEP 156)
SBS2738T² (BNDEP 9/35*) - Baygon Crawling Insect Killer
SBS2739R (BBDEP 200)
SBS2740K (BBDEP SP)
SBS2741H (AMDEP 162) - iNova Pharmaceuticals: Difflam (2nd Gen)
SBS2742E (BBDEP SP)
SBS2743C² (ARBP 111)
SBS2744A² (ARBP 111)
SBS2745Y² (ARBP 111)
SBS2746U² (BBDEP 506)
SBS2747S² (HGDEP 156/EB12)
SBS2748P² (ARBP 123)
SBS2749L² (SLBP 335) - NEA - Dengue Kills. What will dengue cost you today?
SBS2750G² (ARBP 191) [Webasto A/C]
SBS2751D (HGDEP 105) - Creative Zen X-Fi Media Player
SBS2752B (ARBP 123)
SBS2753Z² (HGDEP 107) - Citibank Ready Credit
SBS2754X (BNDEP 8) [Plug-door exit] - S: Moove Skyliner; B: Besta 18 e-Dictionary
SBS2755T (BBDEP SP)
SBS2756R² (BBDEP 506)
SBS2757M² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2758K² (BNDEP 12)
SBS2759H² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2760C² (HGDEP 85)
SBS2761A (ARBP 48)
SBS2762Y² (ARBP 32)
SBS2763U² (HGDEP 159) - Bee Cheng Hiang (feat. Zoe Tay)
SBS2764S² (HGDEP 165)
SBS2765P² (BBDEP 282)
SBS2766L² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2767J² (BBDEP 151)
SBS2768G² (BBDEP 200)
SBS2769D² (BNDEP 10) - F2: PropertyGuru.com.sg
SBS2770Z² (SLBP SP)
SBS2771X² (ARBP 175) - Systema
SBS2772T² (BBDEP 151)
SBS2773R (BBDEP SP)
SBS2774M² (HGDEP 82) - Serangoon Gardens Country Club (iBelong (www.iBelong.com.sg))
SBS2775K² (ARBP 175)
SBS2776H (BBDEP 33)
SBS2777E² (BNDEP SP)
SBS2778C² (BBDEP 166/555*)
SBS2779A¹ (HGDEP 107) [EDS front & side] - F2: Nokia Music Mobile (4th Version - Nokia 5320 XpressMusic: Grey/Blue)
SBS2780U² (ARBP 93)
SBS2781S² (ARBP 16)
SBS2782P² (BBDEP 151)
SBS2783L² (ARBP 175)
SBS2784J (SLBP SP)
SBS2785G² (HGDEP 159/EB9) - Tic Tac (2nd Gen)
SBS2786D² (SLBP 51) - Bridgestone Potenza (New Version)
SBS2787B² (BBDEP 151) - DSTA Careers
SBS2788Z² (SLBP SP)
SBS2789X (BBDEP SP)
SBS2790R (AMDEP 166) - CLEAR No Dandruff Shampoo
SBS2791M² (BNDEP 10) - Nikon Coolpix S60
SBS2792K² (BNDEP 38/566*)
SBS2793H² (BRBP 88) - Systema
SBS2794E² (BNDEP 19)
SBS2795C¹ (BNDEP SP)
SBS2796A² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2797Y (HGDEP 100) - iNova Pharmaceuticals: Difflam (2nd Gen)
SBS2798U (BBDEP 506)
SBS2799S² (AMDEP 162) - Serangoon Gardens Country Club (iBelong (www.iBelong.com.sg))
SBS2800X (AMDEP 162) - Canon Digital Ixus
SBS2801T² (AMDEP 70) - F2: OCBC SmartChange
SBS2802R (AMDEP 70) - National Precision Engineering Scholarship and Specialist Programme (by SPRING Singapore)
SBS2803M (BBDEP 284)
SBS2804K (AMDEP 162) - HSBC Women's Champions (2nd Gen - The Champions Showdown)
SBS2805H (BNDEP 518/518A*)
SBS2806E (ARBP 63)
SBS2807C² (ARBP 32)
SBS2808A (AMDEP 70) - Nikon D90
SBS2809Y² (BRBP 131) - Prudential's Personal Accident Policies
SBS2810S (AMDEP 21) [Carrier A/C]
SBS2811P (BNDEP 28) - Citibank Ready Credit
SBS2812L¹ (BRBP 157) - F2: Nokia Music Mobile (4th Version - Nokia 5320 XpressMusic: Pink)
SBS2813J (AMDEP 21/565*) - CLEAR No Dandruff Shampoo
SBS2814G² (BBDEP 200)
SBS2815D² (ARBP 275)
SBS2816B (BNDEP 28) - Baygon Crawling Insect Killer
SBS2817Z² (ARBP 93)
SBS2818X¹ (ARBP 16) - Panasonic Viera
SBS2819T (ARBP 16)
SBS2820M² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2821K (BBDEP SP)
SBS2822H¹ (BBDEP SP)
SBS2823E² (ARBP 95)
SBS2824C (BBDEP SP) - B: Nicorette Gum
SBS2825A² (ARBP 32/11*)
SBS2826Y² (BNDEP 81) - Star World & Channel [V]: 90210
SBS2827U² (BBDEP SP)
SBS2828S (BBDEP SP) - Fragrance Bak Kwa (feat. Sharon Au) [2nd Gen]
SBS2829P (BBDEP SP) - B: Nicorette Gum
SBS2830J (BNDEP 39)
SBS2831G² (BNDEP 7) - Health Promotion Board, Quitline and Pfizer Singapore - "My Doctor Save My Life"
SBS2832D (BBDEP 33)
SBS2833B² (BNDEP SP)
SBS2834Z (BBDEP SP)
SBS2835X² (ARBP 175)
SBS2836T (ARBP 95)
SBS2837R¹ (ARBP 175) - Panasonic Lumix
SBS2838M² (BBDEP SP) [Carrier aircon unit: Denso-shaped]
Former Deployments
SBS2689B: BBDEP SP , SLBP SP , SLBP 105 , BBDEP 77
SBS2690X: BBDEP 200 , BBDEP SP , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 34 , ARBP 16 , ARBP 123
SBS2691T: HGDEP 101 , HGDEP 86
SBS2692R: HGDEP 111, HGDEP 154 , BRBP 154
SBS2693M: HGDEP SP , HGDEP 74, HGDEP 51/540*
SBS2694K: HGDEP 27
SBS2695H: HGDEP 27, HGDEP SP
SBS2696E: HGDEP 132, HGDEP 151
SBS2697C: HGDEP 86, HGDEP 101/EB31
SBS2698A: HGDEP SP , ARBP 32, BBDEP 99, ARBP 93
SBS2699Y: SLBP 174 , SLBP 78 , SLBP 105
SBS2700B: ARBP 275 , BBDEP 99/556*, BBDEP SP , SLBP 66
SBS2701Z: SLBP SP , SLBP 66
SBS2702X: ARBP 95 , SLBP SP , SLBP 66 , SLBP 30 , SLBP 78
SBS2703T: HGDEP SP , HGDEP 163 , SLBP SP , SLBP 143 , SLBP 66
SBS2705M: HGDEP SP , ARBP 95 , BBDEP SP, SLBP SP , SLBP 66
SBS2706K: BNDEP SP , BNDEP 36/36A
SBS2707H: BBDEP SP, BBDEP 156
SBS2708E: BBDEP SP , SLBP 105
SBS2709C: SLBP 105 , HGDEP 100 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 89/89e , HGDEP 372
SBS2710Y: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 17 , BNDEP SP
SBS2711U: BNDEP 36
SBS2712S: BBDEP 166
SBS2716G: AMDEP 131 , BNDEP 9/575*, BNDEP 9
SBS2717D: AMDEP 131 , BNDEP 69 , BNDEP 196/196e , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 23
SBS2718B: AMDEP 131
SBS2719Z: BRBP 131 , BNDEP 69 , BNDEP SP, BBDEP SP
SBS2720T: SLBP 105 , SLBP SP , ARBP 95
SBS2721R: BNDEP SP , BNDEP 36 , BNDEP 12 , BNDEP SP/36 , BNDEP 196/196e
SBS2722M: BNDEP 8, BRBP 8 , AMDEP 133 , AMDEP 55 , AMDEP SP
SBS2723K: BNDEP 12 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 9 , BNDEP 23 , BNDEP 58
SBS2724H: BNDEP 168 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 196/196e
SBS2725E: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP
SBS2726C: BNDEP 23 , BNDEP 81 , BNDEP 15 , BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP , BBDEP SP
SBS2727A: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 5
SBS2728Y: BNDEP 81, BBDEP SP
SBS2730P: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP
SBS2731L: HGDEP 132
SBS2732J: HGDEP 27 , HGDEP SP, BBDEP SP
SBS2733G: HGDEP 7, HGDEP 64 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 147 , BNDEP 197 , BNDEP 17 , BNDEP 9
SBS2734D: HGDEP 27 , HGDEP SP, HGDEP 147, BBDEP SP
SBS2735B: HGDEP 111
SBS2736Z: HGDEP 9
SBS2737X: AMDEP 131, BNDEP 33/560*, BBDEP SP
SBS2738T: AMDEP 131 , BNDEP 9/575* , BNDEP 9/566*
SBS2739R: AMDEP 72 , BNDEP 69 , BNDEP SP, BBDEP SP
SBS2740K: AMDEP 72 , BNDEP 168, AMDEP 168 , BNDEP 15
SBS2742E: AMDEP 72 , BNDEP 18 , BNDEP 21
SBS2743C: AMDEP 72 , BNDEP 69, BNDEP 31, BNDEP 5 , BNDEP SP , BBDEP SP
SBS2744A: BNDEP 8 , BNDEP SP , BBDEP SP
SBS2745Y: AMDEP 21 , BNDEP 21 , BNDEP 197 , BNDEP 18 , BBDEP SP
SBS2746U: BNDEP 8/579* , BNDEP 37/579*
SBS2748P: SLBP 105 , ARBP 274 , ARBP 48 , ARBP 123 , ARBP SP
SBS2749L: SLBP 66 , SLBP 335 , SLBP SP
SBS2750G: BNDEP 81 , BNDEP 9 , BNDEP 12 , BNDEP 9 , BBDEP SP
SBS2751D: SLBP 105
SBS2752B: SLBP 105 , HGDEP 105 , HGDEP 158, BBDEP SP
SBS2753Z: SLBP 105 , HGDEP 105
SBS2754X: AMDEP 161 , AMDEP SP , AMDEP 55 , BNDEP SP
SBS2755T: AMDEP 72 , HGDEP 62 , BNDEP 197 , BNDEP 21 , BNDEP 18
SBS2756R: BRBP 88 , BNDEP 8/579* , BNDEP 37/579*
SBS2757M: AMDEP 161 , BNDEP 9 , BNDEP 81
SBS2758K: SLBP 105 , BNDEP 15 , BNDEP SP
SBS2759H: BBDEP SP , ARBP 10 , BNDEP 10
SBS2760C: SLBP 51 , SLBP SP
SBS2761A: ARBP 48, BBDEP SP
SBS2762Y: BBDEP 99
SBS2763U: HGDEP SP , SLBP 51
SBS2764S: BNDEP 196 , ARBP 175 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 51
SBS2765P: BNDEP 23, BNDEP 81
SBS2766L: BNDEP 15 , BNDEP SP
SBS2767J: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP 222/30e, BBDEP SP
SBS2768G: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP 222/30e
SBS2769D: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP
SBS2770Z: SLBP 105
SBS2771X: SLBP 66 , BBDEP SP , BBDEP 166/555*
SBS2772T: HGDEP 27 , HGDEP SP, HGDEP 147, BBDEP SP
SBS2773R: HGDEP 64/EB9 , HGDEP 159/EB9
SBS2774M: HGDEP 165
SBS2775K: HGDEP 43/581* HGDEP 62 , HGDEP 82 , BBDEP SP
SBS2776H: HGDEP 165/557*, HGDEP 62 , BBDEP SP
SBS2777E: SLBP 66 , BBDEP SP , SLBP 66, BBDEP SP
SBS2778C: BBDEP 74 , BBDEP 96 , ARBP 175
SBS2779A: HGDEP 80 , HGDEP 153 , HGDEP 156
SBS2780U: HGDEP 80 , HGDEP 64 , HGDEP SP, HGDEP 82, BBDEP SP
SBS2781S: HGDEP 119 , HGDEP 159/578* , BBDEP SP
SBS2782P: HGDEP 156/578* , HGDEP 119/156/578* , BBDEP SP
SBS2783L: HGDEP 33 , HGDEP 100 , HGDEP 74 , BBDEP 74 , ARBP 5 , BBDEP SP
SBS2784J: BBDEP 190, SLBP 66
SBS2785G: BBDEP 190 , SLBP 105 , SLBP SP , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 85
SBS2786D: BBDEP 190
SBS2787B: SLBP 51 , BBDEP SP , ARBP 48 , BBDEP SP
SBS2788Z: SLBP 105
SBS2789X: AMDEP 21 , HGDEP 156 , HGDEP 43/EB31
SBS2790R: AMDEP 21
SBS2791M: AMDEP 131
SBS2792K: BRBP 88 , AMDEP 55 , BRBP 131 , BNDEP SP
SBS2794E: BRBP 88 , AMDEP 70 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 19/576*
SBS2795C: HGDEP 107/EB2 , HGDEP 105/EB2, HGDEP SP/EB2, HGDEP 147/EB2
SBS2796A: HGDEP 163 , HGDEP SP
SBS2797Y: HGDEP 154
SBS2798U: HGDEP SP
SBS2801T: AMDEP 162 , AMDEP SP
SBS2802R: AMDEP 162 , AMDEP SP , AMDEP 70/577*
SBS2803M: AMDEP 131 , AMDEP 162 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 222/30e
SBS2805H: BNDEP 10/10e , BNDEP SP
SBS2806E: BNDEP 10/10e , BBDEP SP
SBS2807C: BNDEP 222/30e , BBDEP SP
SBS2808A: AMDEP 162 , AMDEP SP
SBS2809Y: AMDEP 162
SBS2810S: AMDEP 162, AMDEP SP
SBS2811P: AMDEP 162 , BNDEP SP
SBS2812L: AMDEP 162 , AMDEP 54
SBS2813J: AMDEP 168 , AMDEP SP , AMDEP 70/577* , AMDEP 70
SBS2814G: BNDEP 10
SBS2815D: BNDEP SP , BNDEP 81
SBS2816B: BNDEP 10 , BNDEP SP
SBS2817Z: BNDEP 10/10e , HGDEP 105, HGDEP SP, BBDEP SP
SBS2818X: BNDEP 39 , HGDEP 82 , HGDEP 100 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 34
SBS2819T: BNDEP 15/EB4 , BNDEP SP/EB4 , BNDEP 66/EB4, BNDEP SP, BBDEP SP
SBS2820M: BNDEP 15 , BNDEP 7
SBS2821K: BNDEP 15/EB6
SBS2822H: BNDEP 65 , BNDEP 81 , BNDEP 5, SLBP 174 , SLBP SP
SBS2823E: BNDEP 65 , BNDEP 15 , ARBP 16
SBS2824C: BNDEP 65 , BNDEP 81
SBS2825A: BNDEP 65 , BNDEP 15 , SLBP 174 , SLBP 78 , SLBP 105 , SLBP 66 , SLBP SP, HGDEP 85, BBDEP SP
SBS2826Y: BNDEP 15 , AMDEP 72 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 39/559* , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 38/566*
SBS2827U: BNDEP 10
SBS2828S: AMDEP 39 , BNDEP 39
SBS2829P: AMDEP 39 , BNDEP 39
SBS2830J: AMDEP 39
SBS2831G: BNDEP 36 , BNDEP SP , BNDEP 5
SBS2832D: BNDEP 15 , BNDEP 39 , AMDEP 39 , BNDEP 39
SBS2833B: BNDEP 36
SBS2834Z: BNDEP SP , BNDEP 109, BNDEP 196/196e
SBS2835X: HGDEP SP , HGDEP 156 , HGDEP 62/569* , HGDEP 62/581* , BBDEP SP
SBS2836T: HGDEP 161 , HGDEP SP, HGDEP 82, BBDEP SP
SBS2837R: HGDEP 161 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 109 , BBDEP 151/200*
SBS2838M: HGDEP 163 , HGDEP SP , HGDEP 147/532*
Other Informations
Legend
- AMDEP - Ang Mo Kio Depot
- ARBP - Ayer Rajah Bus Park
- BBDEP- Bukit Batok Depot
- BNDEP - Bedok North Depot
- BRBP - Braddell Bus Park
- HGDEP - Hougang Depot
- SLBP - Soon Lee Bus Park
- SP - Spare Buses
- * Crossover
- ¹ Refurbished Seats & Interior
- ² Refurbished Seats
Advertisements
Due to complexity of some ads, advertisement codes are present
- (empty): Whole bus ad
- LS: Left Skyliner
- RS: Right Skyliner
- B: Back - Ad covering entire back of bus
- BS: Back Small - Small sticker ad on the back of the bus/ad mounted on the metal holder on the back of bus
- NS: Nearside - Small sticker ad, or ad mounted on the nearside (door) metal ad holder
- OS: Offside (as above, but on driver side)
- S: 2D Skyliner side ads
- FS: Whole bus ad with 2D Skyliner side ads
- B2: Full rear ad with 2D pop-up advert
- B3: Full back ad with 3D ads
- F3: Whole bus ad with 3D rear ads
- LFS: Ad covering left side of the bus and left skyliner
- RFS: Ad covering right side of the bus and right skyliner
Notes
- SBS2782P will operate on Service 156 during Weekdays AM Peak and Off Peak and on Service 119 during Weekdays PM Peak and Off Peak.
- AMDEP & BRBP buses are interchangable.
- ARBP & BBDEP buses are interchangable.