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Just discuss below.
Just discuss below.


==Re: Alternate Travel Option Wording==
* NS11: 962 Remarks: You can take the NSLFBB due to the long walking distance to Blk 680.


== Sengkang / Punggol LRT Route Map, Plaform Layout ==
>> The walking distance may be on par with Opp Admiralty Stn bus stop as one need to turn left twice to Admiralty Stn bus stop, turn left again and walk down, cross the overhead bridge and further walk to Opp Admiralty Stn, whereas the walking path to Blk 680 bus stop is straightforward & direct (turn right and walk to road, turn left again to bus stop).
Hi,


I think for the loop service for Sengkang and Punggol I think we follow the geological map in Google Map / LTA Station map?
* NS12: 962->117/M 883/M Remarks: You can take the NSLFBB due to the long travelling journey to the station.


So for
>> What do you mean long travelling time? Alternatively how about 965->Darul Mosque->Overhead bridge->169/117/883 to Canberra, will it be faster?
* Sengkang
** SW4 - SW1 | STC | SE1 - SE3<br>SW5 - SW8 |    | SE5 - SE4
* Punggol
** PW4 - PW1 | PTC | PE7 - PE4<br>PW5 - PW7 |    | PE1 - PE3


I shift the Layout Template - UR to UL (This one my naming wrong), then UR2 to UR.
== RE: Alternate Travel Options==
 
Hi,
As for the Platform Layout, I trial it at Admiralty Station. Do take a look and let me know what need to improve. I not too sure if the escalator/stairs/lift should change to pictograms, this include the Faregates, Ticketing Machine and the Passenger Service Control.
 
As for the Exit, I not to sure if we do a simplified drawing or use screenshot of a Map, instead of the table.
 
Do let me know if you have any suggestion.
 
=== Re: ===
For the subsequent station on SKLRT & PGLRT, there is 2 takes.
* Treat it as a normal route map, reached until Sengkang/Punggol as a single line and that's it.
* Follow the same as Sengkang/Punggol, but only keep the East/West Loop segment
 
I think this would also affect the layout for those stations on the BPLRT, especially for the BP7 - BP13 ones as they are in a loop.
 
Noted on your Platform Layout takes. I will think of how I can improve it.
 
Ideally if we can implement something like this [https://www.skyscrapercity.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.skyscrapercity.com/attachments/20221208_123522-jpg.4264906/] would be better as it would fit in the concourse exit directory easily.
 
As for Alternate Travel Method for Locality Map, it would be a good idea, but there is lack of consistency between the various MRT operators, and also LRT stations. Furthermore, some online map services are not even accurate and differ from 1 another, with no clear indication of Bus Stop Numbers on their maps. Will consider/ponders more about it or if you had an alternative do let me know and let see how we can implement it out.
 
Thanks & Regards
 
Supernutorcrazy
 
=== Re: ===
1. Noted to keep to single line option to reach the end-terminus (CCK/Sengkang/Punggol).
 
2. Yes. The City Hall illustration is good, but there is no consistency, all station don't even have those. Outram Park transfer is a nightmare one, but it look way off/different. Also how can we implement it in sgWiki is another question.
 
3. Agree with you. LTA do take a handsoff approached in terms of updating it. I once wrote to LTA regarding to put maps and Train Arrival Time on their myTransport.sg App, but their response is, they will not do it. So theoretically, their app is way worse than Google Map because they treat public transport into 3 category, bus, mrt/lrt and taxi, and not as 1 - point to point connectivity mode. It's a joke on how they always say with it. So getting those map updated will take eternalty unless the station will get a new line serving it.
 
Yes. Making a map for this wiki should be doable. Need to find way on how to implement it. sgWiki doesn't allow svg format, so image wise only png would be better, and it hard to make/update changes in the future if they is a change in the future. HTML is box-like and hard to do a diagonally layout so the map will look weird. For the details - I was thinking about the following would be better so that at least there is a visual cue:
* Bus Stop (with 5-digit numbers only, without name)
* Road Layout (with Road Name)
* Exit Markers (Numbers / Alphabets)
* Visual Markers such as Shopping Centre / Well-known landmarks
 
But this would be very exhausting and we need to plan well before making such a map. As of now, the station layout and the exit location like the City Hall diagram seems possible to implement first. By the way, there is no limit on Wiki, just that the page can get too long and it hard for the user to scroll that much if viewing on mobile phone. :)
 
=== RE: ===
First, for the line diagram, lets keep it to as of now. 1 station code (the line itself, except Tanah Merah and Pasir Ris in the future). I had a nightmare calibrating the lines to feature the CG for Tanah Merah. I had tried to implement the interchanges, but it will get messier with diff format in terms of the capsule.
 
As for the layout details, I foresee the development of the station layout would take 10 mins per station, because we just need to mark out the correct carriage for lift, interchange exits and so on.
 
But if we want to include the exits numbers/layout to platform layout/concourse etc, it will need to take 1 hour to do per station, which is still doable.
 
For the simplified locality map guide, if we do it on image graphic, it would map up to be a day per station. But it we do it using wiki html format, it may take weeks.


Tradeoff between image locality map is speed, cause we can take screenshot, photoshop with entrance/exit, bus stop etc. But in the future, any editing will be tougher cause the same process had to be repeated again. But if we do the wiki html way, we need more time to do, align and correct a single map. But the future edit would be easier and faster.
Thanks for your progress. I had updated the Schematic route for Woodlands station, by including coloured lines at the bottom of the icon for quick reference on the icons group, so that it would be more easier to reference the icon-pairing when viewing 2 images side by side.


Regards
I will update the travelling time for TEL4 asap once I timed the whole trip from Woodlands North to Bayshore and analyze first as the current Opening House could not be fully gauge (as it was sector by sector) so actual dwell time may differ.


=== Re: Progress about Map ===
Thanks and Regards
Alright, I now making a Bishan Station Map - Making full use of the non-cross platform interchange for feasibility test.


Here the progress. [[File:Bishan-StnMap.png|600px]]
== Re: Disruption dropdown box idea ==
Yes, is fine to do it, I not really sure what you meant by main page, perhaps you can trial first for it? The main page is not locked (I believe)


The size of the map I had estimated it to be within 5 mins walking speed (approx 360m away from the edge of the station)
As for the station layout map, I trying to figure out a way to translate 2D diagram to isometric view (Mathematics involved) for better clarity, so once that done I will slowly progressive roll out on most of the NSL and the eastern EWL. Didn't really have the accurate network layout for most station.

Latest revision as of 16:46, 2 July 2024

Just discuss below.

Re: Alternate Travel Option Wording[edit]

  • NS11: 962 Remarks: You can take the NSLFBB due to the long walking distance to Blk 680.

>> The walking distance may be on par with Opp Admiralty Stn bus stop as one need to turn left twice to Admiralty Stn bus stop, turn left again and walk down, cross the overhead bridge and further walk to Opp Admiralty Stn, whereas the walking path to Blk 680 bus stop is straightforward & direct (turn right and walk to road, turn left again to bus stop).

  • NS12: 962->117/M 883/M Remarks: You can take the NSLFBB due to the long travelling journey to the station.

>> What do you mean long travelling time? Alternatively how about 965->Darul Mosque->Overhead bridge->169/117/883 to Canberra, will it be faster?

RE: Alternate Travel Options[edit]

Hi,

Thanks for your progress. I had updated the Schematic route for Woodlands station, by including coloured lines at the bottom of the icon for quick reference on the icons group, so that it would be more easier to reference the icon-pairing when viewing 2 images side by side.

I will update the travelling time for TEL4 asap once I timed the whole trip from Woodlands North to Bayshore and analyze first as the current Opening House could not be fully gauge (as it was sector by sector) so actual dwell time may differ.

Thanks and Regards

Re: Disruption dropdown box idea[edit]

Yes, is fine to do it, I not really sure what you meant by main page, perhaps you can trial first for it? The main page is not locked (I believe)

As for the station layout map, I trying to figure out a way to translate 2D diagram to isometric view (Mathematics involved) for better clarity, so once that done I will slowly progressive roll out on most of the NSL and the eastern EWL. Didn't really have the accurate network layout for most station.

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