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UPD decals

UPD stickers are gradually coming back. You mind listing what you see here then

Reply (23ispolo):

This table presents buses with UPD stickers based on cross-checking the regos with my memory, other than some unconfirmed buses from 145 (i.e. SBS5030G, SBS6222M & SBS8297J). There may still be buses that are not 145 perm anymore, but still have the white UPD sticker. Moreover, some UPDEP buses do not have either blue or white UPD stickers (e.g. SBS8770J & SG5544C), or have a plain blue sticker (which I did not include here). Otherwise, this should be accurate unless I missed out regos by accident.

Buses with "UPD" windscreen sticker

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BNDEP		SBS6075X SBS6121X SBS6139X SBS6192R SBS6193M SG1227U Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro SBS5177S SBS5231T Scania K230UB SG3001R SG3002M SG3003K SG3004H SG3006C SG3008Y Volvo B5LH SG6178U SG6185Z MAN ND323F SBS3118B SBS3697X SBS7665L SG5144Z Volvo B9TL
HGDEP		SBS6158R Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro SBS5038K SBS8181J SBS8293U SBS8788J SBS8826H SBS8865U SBS8970Z Scania K230UB SG5841U SG5957U SG5958S SG5991U SG5992S SG5993P MAN ND323F SBS3658J SBS3814A SBS7662U Volvo B9TL
UPDEP	UPD	SMB3038H SMB3040A SMB3042U SMB3043S SMB3052R SG1705G SG1709X SG1710R SG1711M SG1714E SG1715E SG1716A SG1721J SG1722G SG1749E SG1857B SG1859X SG1860R SG1862K SG1863H SG1864E SG1865C SG1866A SG1867Y SG1868U SG1882C SG1883A MAN NL323F SBS6201Z SBS6211U SBS6214L SBS6216G SBS6218B SBS6228Y SBS6229U SBS6233G SBS6243C SBS6244A SBS6254X SBS6270Z SBS6280U SBS6285G SBS6334Z SBS6375E SBS6376C SBS6380P SBS6386Z SBS6394A SBS6395Y SBS6397S SBS6404E SBS6416X SBS6601C SBS6602A SBS6619C SBS6630T SBS6634H SBS6635E SBS6639U SBS6650K SBS6651H SBS6652E SBS6655Y SBS6661D SBS6666R SBS6672Y SBS6674S SBS6675P SBS6687E SBS6721P SBS6735A SBS6752A SBS6754U SBS6755S SBS6761Z SBS6764R SBS6772S SBS6774L SBS6775J SBS6776G SBS6778B SBS6806D SG1020Z SG1021X SG1022T SG1028C SG1029A SG1030U SG1031S SG1032P SG1033L SG1034J SG1035G SG1036D SG1037B SG1038Z SG1039X SG1040R SG1042K SG1043H SG1044E SG1045C SG1046A SG1047Y SG1048U SG1049S SG1050L SG1103T SG1104R SG1113P SG1117D SG1118B SG1119Z SG1121R SG1122M SG1123K SG1128Y SG1129U SG1130P SG1134D SG1135B SG1136Z SG1137X SG1142E SG1143C SG1145Y SG1196A SG1198U SG1199S SG1200X SG1201T SG1209Y SG1210S SG1211P SG1212L SG1213J SG1214G SG1215D SG1217Z SG1218X SG1219T SG1220M SG1221K SG1222H SG1223E SG1224C SG1225A Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro SBS8090M SBS8114D SBS8131D SBS8192C SBS8267X SBS8335H SBS8420U SBS8432K SBS8488A SBS8491P SBS8517A SBS8518Y SBS8527X SBS8530K SBS8541D SBS8563R SBS8593D SBS8619P SBS8631C SBS8641Z SBS8659Z SBS8687S SBS8688P SBS8689L SBS8702G SBS8728H SBS8729E SBS8733S SBS8747C SBS8751P SBS8757Z SBS8758X SBS8759T SBS8761K SBS8762H SBS8763E SBS8768S SBS8773B SBS8778M SBS8782A SBS8783Y SBS8793T SBS8806R SBS8807M SBS8820Z SBS8822T SBS8827E SBS8829A SBS8859M SBS8861E SBS8904R SBS8947S SBS8948P SBS8951D SBS8961A SBS8962Y SBS8963U SBS8973R SBS8976H SBS8995C SBS5015B SBS5020K SBS5025Y SBS5026U SBS5027S SBS5028P SBS5035T SBS5058C SBS5063L SBS5065G SBS5076A SBS5085Z SBS5087T SBS5095U SBS5118M SBS5122A SBS5123Y SBS5125Y SBS5128J SBS5129G SBS5131Z SBS5135M SBS5160P SBS5178P SBS5182B SBS5186R SBS5216M SBS5223S Scania K230UB SG5987H SG5994L SG5995J SG5996G SG5997D SG5998B SG6001X SG6002T SG6003R SG6106C SG6148G SG6221C MAN ND323F SBS3119Z SBS3133G SBS3135B SBS3138T SBS3164S SBS3247L SBS3282J SBS3645X SBS3755L SBS3854J SBS3911C SBS3912A SBS7552D SBS7559K SBS7605K SBS7615G SBS7618Z SBS7636X SBS7678A SBS7682L SBS7683J SG5008J SG5009G SG5016K SG5020Y SG5111T SG5360R SG5389J SG5391B SG5437D SG5439Z SG5478K SG5485P SG5486L SG5496H SG5511Y SG5540M SG5542H SG5543E SG5562A SG5610U Volvo B9TL
	UPD	SBS6033S SBS6034P SBS6043M SBS6044K SBS6049Y SBS6050S SBS6072D SBS6091Z SBS6099C SBS6136D SBS6224H SBS6271X SBS6387X SBS6633K SBS6644D SBS6654A SBS6668K SBS6669H SBS6693L SBS6700A SBS6719Y SBS6734C SBS6736Y SBS6744Z SBS6762X SBS6781R SBS6838L SBS6863M SG1166L Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro SBS8041E SBS8042C SBS8061Y SBS8102M SBS8140C SBS8141A SBS8148G SBS8185Z SBS8200M SBS8209P SBS8213B SBS8310D SBS8327G SBS8336E SBS8360J SBS8413R SBS8455U SBS8472U SBS8473S SBS8474P SBS8475L SBS8476J SBS8477G SBS8487C SBS8529R SBS8536U SBS8543Z SBS8568C SBS8572P SBS8576D SBS8601P SBS8629K SBS8639G SBS8646K SBS8647H SBS8678T SBS8707T SBS8755D SBS8756B SBS8769P SBS8772D SBS8775X SBS8852G SBS8858R SBS8886J SBS8887G SBS8893M SBS8906K SBS8929U SBS8935B SBS8937X SBS8938T SBS8940K SBS8943C SBS8954X SBS8957M SBS8965P SBS8967J SBS5005E SBS5008Y SBS5017X SBS5019R SBS5072K SBS5151R SBS5215R SBS5218H SBS5222U SBS5226J Scania K230UB SG5857A SG5870K SG5872E SG5880G SG5881D SG5884X SG5898G SG6047P SG6082L SG6149D SG6156H SG6187T SG6195U SG6197P SG6200M SG6204C SG6220E SG6252M SG6274A SG6294S SG6328D SG6329B SG6330X SG6331T SG6332R MAN ND323F SBS3037B SBS3040R SBS3041M SBS3044E SBS3078H SBS3080A SBS3085L SBS3087G SBS3104R SBS3106K SBS3126C SBS3130P SBS3191M SBS3227U SBS3248J SBS3602U SBS3667H SBS3671U SBS3677D SBS3678B SBS3679Z SBS3680T SBS3700U SBS3702P SBS3709X SBS3757G SBS3777Z SBS3782H SBS3784C SBS3785A SBS3793B SBS3798M SBS3816U SBS3843R SBS3863H SBS3918J SBS7528A SBS7568J SBS7578E SBS7580Y SBS7598Y SBS7619X SBS7630L SBS7653X SBS7658H SBS7673M SBS7677C SBS7685D SBS7700T SBS7711L SG5011Z SG5014R SG5015M SG5032M SG5112R SG5316U SG5317S SG5322B SG5338G SG5348C SG5373D SG5392Z SG5396M SG5440T SG5477M SG5594H SG5607E Volvo B9TL

SMRT bus duties, 176

How can I add in a box for individual SMRT bus duties of dual-depot services, like 176? --23ispolo (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2014 (SGT)

I have added two tables under Service 176 section. Do add in the duty codes too. Thank you.
SMB1341U (talk) 14:20 31/05/2014 (SGT)

Thank you. However, I need to confirm some of the slots of the buses, like SMB1400H - SMB1402C and TIB544E. So, I will leave their duties under 'TBC', before I confirm their actual slots. But great thanks for your help! :)--23ispolo (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2014 (SGT)

Hi 23ispolo, do note that when you add in new box under a service, do check to see if the box fits well like utilising the space if needed to put into two rows rather than putting it all into one single box. As some buses have many slots, the shifts gets rather confusing with the bus under the slot. Leaving a huge colspan dash - for the saturdays and sundays is rather not necessary.

And also check to see if the box is okay if you do happen to use a mobile to access the particular service you have created a box for. As for some of the edits Ive done, Ive ensured that the box does not overflow out of the sgwiki page for that service as I was told from wikipedia. Cheers and good day!

UPDEP 80 DDs

Hi 23ispolo,

It would be great if we had a way to mark standby buses in the roster, as currently now SBST and SMRT adopted this strategy of keeping a spare fleet, by using extra buses from other services. Whether my edits are true or not, my edits are according to the buses being marked in the schedule, as well as the fleet assigned to them.

Of course day to day deployments will vary everyday, I highly suspect that some SBST depots might be moving into the TTS deployment strategy, where the roster is not followed at all and any buses can be deployed. (AMDEP I’m looking at you)

Overall, just trying to help the community with the insider information I have. Of course some fanboys of a particular service (cough cough Service 190) can’t take the changes and just undid my edits. :(

Thanks for reading.

Regards,

Haram

BRBP Bus schedules

Hi 23ispolo

Where do you find duty table for Service 31? What about other services?

Regards,

BOG

RE: HGDEP buses parking in Sengkang West Depot

Hi there, SBS3720L here.

Understood there are buses like SBS3053D, SG5325T with RED stickers but from Services that are non sengkang-hougang.

As far as I heard, re-deployment of buses are expected.

Based on what I see thus far, seems to support the re-deployment theory, as:

- 6079K (64 bus) - On 159
- 6090B, 6147Y, 6237X (109/315 buses) - Spotted 2 consequetive days on 27
- 8119R (315 bus) - On 151

Will have to see in the coming Weekdays if that holds true, as the stickers were first spotted Saturday morning on various hougang int services (21 Dec)

Update: - Seems like clementi package buses are also being moved to Sengkang west, as seen with 6190X (156) and 3057T (147) currently. Although they are currently a mixture of red and non red tags. - 27 & possibly 329 moved to full sengkang west w.e.f tdy, as all deployed buses carries red tag. Only can confirm 30 of the 35 buses currently. Can only be denoted when extremely sure there are non red tag buses deployed on them. - Services like 102, 107, 112, 153, 161, 165, 325 are still doing dual deployment.

Cheers!

190 deployment

Hi hi,

Those E500 you mention are still on 190 on a regular basis. In fact, 190 and 176 DDs are interchangeable and 184 nowadays run flexi so it is common in place for random E500 cameo 184.

5026D was assign to a perm slot and part of 190 roster saw for 4 continuous day this week; 5032K rotate 190 and 176.

As for the SDs, yup indeed 1638P unperm 190 since 18 December 2024. 84T should be still 190 perm as very commonplace for 176 and 190 OCs to run 985. As for the GB sticker you mention, not sure but recently buses that cameo 190 have a lot, in particular SMB234C have been on same slot so could be a swap over.

Opinion

Hi,

I would like to seek your opinion on the following proposed changes:

1. Launch of sgWiki Bus Spotting Page A new page will be created daily and automatically deleted a month later. For example, "Bus Spotting/1 February 2025" would be removed on 1 March 2025. This page is intended to allow editors to document bus registration numbers without the typical edit limitations, enabling infinite edits.

The primary objective is to encourage collaboration among editors and to improve the accuracy of bus deployment data in relation to their permanent services. Many users have noted that the deployment page contains inaccurate and outdated information. By using these pages, we aim to track bus operations more effectively and allocate the correct permanent services, without requiring editors to board the buses to verify duty schedules.

2. Use of Subpages for Bus Model Deployment I have received considerable feedback, mostly criticism, regarding the separation and consolidation of bus advertisements across models. Most complaints focus on advertisement changes rather than deployment accuracy, which contributes to the aforementioned inaccuracies. As such, I propose reorganising the Bus Model deployment using subpages as follows:

Example: Volvo B9TL (WEG Batch 2) will be divided into four subpages:

1. Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2)/Page 1 – (Low Entry, SBS7700T – SBS7729L)
2. Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2)/Page 2 – (Low Floor, SBS3000G – SBS3099Y)
3. Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2)/Page 3 – (Low Floor, SBS3100B – SBS3199S)
4. Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2)/Page 4 – (Low Floor, SBS3200X – SBS3238M & SBS3269Z)

A navigation bar will be added at the top and bottom of each page, linking the respective subpages. Each page will feature a single table listing up to 100 buses, organised in the following format:

Registration No/Livery | Operator/Current Deployment | Advertisement | Former Deployment

This approach seeks to balance different perspectives, and to be more mobile friendly, as I am uncertain why some users are strongly opposed to these changes.

Alternative Table Layouts:

1. Registration No/Livery | Operator/Current Deployment | Former Deployment (Maintain status quo)
2. Batch | Registration No/Livery | Operator/Current Deployment | Former Deployment (Merging of Batches, numerical order, maintain status quo)
3. Batch | Registration No/Livery | Operator/Current Deployment | Advertisement | Former Deployment (Merging of Batches, numerical order)

Please let me know your thoughts on these proposals. Thank you for your time and feedback.

Regards, Supernutorcrazy

HGDEP and BRBP buses deployments

Hi 23ispolo,

I would like to follow up regarding SG6176A deployment on Service 88 currently. The way HGDEP (AMDEP) and BRBP does the deployment and to determine whether the bus (e.g. 6176A on Service 88) is permanent to Service 88 is dependent on the bus duty it is allocated too. Usually, split duty (S-shift) buses are the ones that cannot determine whether that particular unit is permanent to that service, however, morning and night duties are likely to determine the current deployment since the buses allocated to those BCs are fixed and the duty slot would be specifically for that unit. In the case of 6176A being deployed on Svc 88, that particular day was rostered on a night shift duty schedule under BRBP's scheduling for Svc 88. I have been observing how BRBP and HGDEP interchange their deployment for a long time and I think this is the way they do it. However, this is just my speculation and 6176A might go back to HGDEP for 59 again, but I'm messaging this to inform you why I stated that 6176A is going to Braddell as I felt that I did not give a specific reason for shifting 6176A from 59 to 88, that's about it.

Another thing I would like to discuss on is regarding the current depot allocation for HGDEP and BRBP bus services on the website. I think it's best to separate HGDEP and BRBP buses into their own Depots again (e.g. SG0000 | BRBP 00). Before AMDEP closed down, all BRBP buses also had AM on their DDUs, which is the same configuration as the current one where BRBP services have HG on their DDUs as well. While BRBP acts as a bus park for HGDEP, it still operates independently and controls the existing Braddell services while HGDEP controls the previous Ang Mo Kio services along with some services from Hougang such as Service 101. If I'm not wrong, the reason why some services like 72 and 168 transferred to other depots was because HGDEP wants to bring some BRBP services into HGDEP and operate from there, while I won't disclose which services are likely to get pulled into HGDEP from BRBP side, I think it's best to still separate HGDEP and BRBP as a whole, otherwise, it would seem as if HGDEP is overloaded with services and buses. Anyways, I would like to hear from you regarding my suggestion, thanks for reading!

Regards, BOG