User talk:Sgbusntrain

Re:

We shall fine tune the service page first before creating more and bring the rest to new format. With regards to whether to include bus rego or not is still TBC. Best is don't include.

Secondly, I noticed that certain trips of the day is always operated by certain capacity bus type/model regardless of operators. Maybe we can include that in as a general if that was the case? This also include crossover remarks, jumpbus remarks, or CLOWBus remarks. I also noticed that SWT and parent service fleet are usually interchangable (that why I proposed to be same page). This include additional bus stop enroute affecting parent service = SWT also affected.

Thirdly, I was thinking of First/Last Bus at key stops such as MRT stations or landmark.

With regards to service code for travel advisory:

• S1XXE = Express service which start with 1xx
• S22XF = Feeder service which start with 22x
• S95x = Basic service which start with 95x

So for Feeder 222 will just be S22XF

All those special buses can also have their own Additional Information table like in the old format of bus deployments just add everything special there.

First bus and last bus at Train stations are difficult to find out but it is informative, so i guess it can have its own section.

Re: Bus Service Pages

Dear Sgbusntrain,

Maybe we should try adding the perms for non flexi-deployment bus services. Anyway, I understand why we cannot add links to different bus model pages. Also, maybe we can consider bus service duty allocation similar to bus service 296.

Yours Faithfully,
User Talk:SBS5251K

Roads Page

List of roads in Tampines

Hi,

Can you help me with the bus stops on this page?

Regards,
User Talk: SBS5251K

Merging of pages

Hi,

Just a curiosity, are you going to create 10000 plus page for each and every roads in Singapore that just state some unnecessary information such as a list of bus stop and some connecting roads with no real meaningful like histories etc especially for minor roads. If so, I would encourage you to condenses and merge multiple pages into one for the sake of it to be more meaningful.

Regards

In reply

I appreciate your perspective but it is just a passion of mine to create these. I’ll try to add more relevant and important information to major roads, and dig out as much information as possible for minor ones. I’ll try to consider merging pages.

Thanks

Non-revenue buses

Hi Sgbustrain,

If you want to list the bus as non-revenue, you must include what happened to the bus in the edit summary for example an accident with another vehicle. So what really happened to SG1756J???? Reply if you know!

Alphabetlorefan1

In reply

Hi,

SG1756J got into an accident with a white BMW yesterday. Thats all the info I know as of then and i hoped it answers your question. I will make sure the add a brief description next time.

Sgbusntrain

To anyone who wants the reason since i forgotten to put it.

there was an incident involving SMB304J

SBS6623P damage

Hi, do you have any proof that this bus got damaged? The SGRV video showed that it didnt get rear ended or it might be unknown. Or you claiming it was from another website.

Thanks, Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 21:07, 6 July 2024

In reply, SBS6623P accident happened near lorong 106 changi, that bus in the SGRV video is NOT SBS6623P and there was damage to the rear of the bus, the bus is currently in the workshop according to my friend's BCF.

Non-revenue buses

Hi could you please take note that a bus that has broken down is not considered non-revenue, and only more major happenings such as bus accidents, where the bus has to go through excessive repair works, are considered non-revenue. Thanks.

Edit: I just realised that you have clarified that you felt that non-revenue means any bus that is out of service. However, by this definition, tons of buses would have to be put on the list (as can be seen from these 2 days. As such, I would suggest that you do not continue to put buses that breakdown (bus breakdowns are way too frequent) on the list, if not it would make it much harder to track.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Just to let you know those buses that brokedown were from a list past 5 days so thats why there is so many buses all of a sudden. Let those be for now.

Re: I understand you want to put bus breakdowns on the list. However, ever since that page existed, only scrapped or damaged (not breakdown) buses has been formally put on the page. Please stop placing these breakdown buses on there. That is also why non-revenue buses has to be given a proper reason, if not it will also get reverted. Plus non-revenue buses means gone for quite a while, unlike 5035E which was repaired in just a day. Thanks.

Bus Service Page

Hi,

Regarding the history section, it is better or confusing for a trial at Bus Service 222 and Bus Service 911, where I had included the previous history (prior to renumbering)?

Do let me know your take, and also how should we proceed for the old history services.

Thanks

Travel Advisory

Hi, for the travel advisory, keep in chronical order from date of changes with MRT/LRT first followed by Bus as the impact of the changes affects more to trains (1000 (MRT)/200 (LRT) passengers per train every 3 mins) as compared to bus (80 passengers per bus every 10 mins)

Adding Bus Service Page Links to the “Bus Deployments By Package” Page

Hi, is it ok if I add links to the “Bus Deployments By Package” page?

I find it annoying that to go to any Bus Service page from the “Bus Deployments By Package” page, you would have to click off, go to the “Bus Deployments By Service” page, click on the page that you wish to go, then click on the respective page you want to go to go there. It would be more convenient if the links to the Bus Service pages was right at the “Bus Deployments By Package” page.

That way, people could go to their respective Bus Service pages from the “Bus Deployments By Package” List and not have to click off as I said earlier. Thanks.

Best regards,
Gjxl1303

Finding a way to add buses that do downroute trips from a bus stop to its terminal with its plate if the bus service page has been made

Hi, if someone knows the bus (for example SBS0000X, SMB0000X or SG0000X) that does downroute trips from a stop to an interchange, how do they add that bus?

Before bus service pages were made, the “Notes” section would have “X Service XXX ([bus type]) buses/ SXX0000X (Service XXX) will perform X down-route trip(s) as Service XXX from [road name] (Bus Stop XXXXX - [Bus Stop Name]) towards [terminating point] before/during [time period down route happens], departing at XXXX hours.”

Now, with bus service pages, if people know the bus that does downrouting from a stop to a bus interchange/terminal, how do they add it so that the public still knows what bus and it’s duty does the downroute? I’m curious to find out how you would solve this problem.

If you find out a way, please let me know, thank you.

Best regards,
User Talk: Gjxl1303

I think what the user meant is if there are 2 downroute trips, and 1 bus is perm for one of the departing timing, how to label that bus in and not the table format.

Bus Deployments by Package

Hi Sgbustrain,

I was wondering why you completely reformatted this page. The main problem I have with this page is that there is no link to the page of each individual bus package, i.e. Bulim or Loyang. I did think of putting it like this where the title is clickable

Bulim Bus Package			[ V • T • E ]

but even if there somehow was a way to make the whole line clickable, it would still look downright ugly in blue. I will now undo this edit so that the page continues to have these links. I feel that the UI is easier to use in the previous version as the different services can all be found within each bus package page, and things such as "Clementi feeders" or "Bukit Batok feeders" can also be found in the bus deployments by service page, and these templates also make this page uneccessarily long. That being said, if you do find an effective way to solve the main problem I mentioned earlier, feel free to reformat the bus deployments by package page. Thanks.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Re: Jumping straight to the point, I really dislike the new format which you have put in as it makes the page very very long. Why I do not like this new format is because: 1. Most of the information found in the template can be found in each specific bus package. This includes bus models and type of service for each bus number.

2. The only information that can really be considered extra would be which neighbourhood each feeder serves, such as bishan feeders being 410, toa payoh feeders being 230, 231, etc. This information can already be derived from Bus Deployments by Service, or even derived from each bus package page, as all feeders start/loop at a place with the neighbourhood name (i.e. amk feeder 265 starting at amk depot looping at amk ave 10). Hence, this is just uneccessary information for Bus Deployments by Package page which is meant to give an overview of the bus packages and not delve into the specifics.

3. People may not realise that the title is clickable, leading to specific information about each bus package being so called “inaccessible”. (yes I know I may be contradicting my earlier message but I didnt forsee this unintended consequence) Some people like me sometimes do not use laptops so there isn't a mouse to hover over the title to realise its clickable, compared with the previous format where the blue font makes it obvious that it is clickable.

I am not saying that this your ideas are worthless as there are still certain ideas which can be used to improve each individual bus package page. This include the sorting of services, where a class="wikitable sortable" can be added to the table of services to be able to sort them based on service (colour coding works too if need be). Links to each bus model in each bus package can also be placed to make it easier to go between the pages. In conclusion, I will change back the format and edit each bus package page accordingly with the edits I have suggested here unless you are able to show me what this new format does better than the old format.

Thanks for reading this and apologies for being so critical here, and I hope that you wont take offence because of this message.

Bus History Page

Hi can the History page be kept untouched? I nearly missed out on Sv 78's amendment to Jurong Town Hall Int when doing a complication of the bus history for today (26 November)

Non-Wheelchair Accessible Bus Stop

I had verify some bus stop via the LTA Datamall, there are only 76 bus stop that are non-wheelchair accessible as followed:

07231 Bef Tai Hoe Hotel Kitchener Rd	07249 Aft Kempas Rd Lavender St	13101 Opp Mohd Sultan Rd River Valley Rd	13169 Grange 80 Condo Grange Rd	21099 Jurong Island Checkpt Jurong Pier Way
21499 Bef Jln Tukang Quality Rd	22091 Aft Jln Samulun Shipyard Rd	23389 PEC Ltd Shipyard Rd	23419 Bef Shipyard Cres Shipyard Rd	24331 Opp Hong Hang Bldg Pioneer Rd
24339 Hong Hang Bldg Pioneer Rd	24681 Opp Jurong Insp Ctr Pioneer Rd	24689 Jurong Insp Ctr Pioneer Rd	25269 Tuas Checkpt Jln Ahmad Ibrahim	25379 Aft Tuas Ave 6 Tuas Ave 9
25389 Aft Tuas Ave 8 Tuas Ave 9	25469 Bef Tuas West Ave Tuas West Dr	26241 Aft Tuas Sth Ave 2 Tuas Sth Ave 3	26251 Bef Tuas Sth Ave 2 Tuas Sth Ave 3	31071 Aft Chinese Cemy Path 11 Lim Chu Kang Rd
31081 Opp HQ 5th SIB Camp I Old Lim Chu Kang Rd	31089 HQ 5th SIB Camp I Old Lim Chu Kang Rd	31201 Aft Chinese Cemy Path 13 Lim Chu Kang Rd	31211 Aft Muslim Cemy Path 17 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32041 Opp LP 160 Lim Chu Kang Rd
32049 Aft LP 161 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32051 Aft Track 11 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32059 Opp Track 11 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32061 Opp LP 173 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32069 B26 Lim Chu Kang Rd Lim Chu Kang Rd
32071 Aft Track 13 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32079 Opp Track 13 Lim Chu Kang Rd	32101 Aft Murai Farmway Lim Chu Kang Rd	32109 Bef Lor Serambi Lim Chu Kang Rd	32111 Aft LP 93 Lim Chu Kang Rd
32119 Aft LP 96 Lim Chu Kang Rd	33011 B19 Lim Chu Kang Rd Lim Chu Kang Rd	33019 B20 Lim Chu Kang Rd Lim Chu Kang Rd	33031 Aft Jln Bahtera Lim Chu Kang Rd	33051 Bef Lim Chu Kang Lane 3A Lim Chu Kang Rd
33059 Aft Lim Chu Kang Lane 3A Lim Chu Kang Rd	34009 Police Coast Guard Lim Chu Kang Rd	34011 Opp Lim Chu Kang Lane 4 Lim Chu Kang Rd	34021 Opp Lim Chu Kang Lane 5 Lim Chu Kang Rd	34029 Bef Lim Chu Kang Lane 5 Lim Chu Kang Rd
34031 Aft Lim Chu Kang Lane 6 Lim Chu Kang Rd	34039 Bef Lim Chu Kang Lane 6 Lim Chu Kang Rd	34041 B03 Lim Chu Kang Rd Lim Chu Kang Rd	34049 Aft Lim Chu Kang Lane 8 Lim Chu Kang Rd	34051 Aft Lim Chu Kang Lane 8 Lim Chu Kang Rd
34059 Yishun Dairy Farm Lim Chu Kang Rd	43721 Blk 319 Gombak Dr	44669 Opp Blk 532 Jelapang Rd	46101 W'lands Checkpt W'lands Crossing	46109 W'lands Checkpt W'lands Crossing
46211 Johor Bahru Checkpt Johor Bahru	46219 Johor Bahru Checkpt Johor Bahru	46239 Larkin Ter Jln Datin Halimah	46301 Progen Bldg Riverside Rd		47711 JB Sentral Bus Ter Jln Jim Quee
48101 Aft Meng Suan Rd Mandai Rd	48109 Opp Meng Suan Rd Mandai Rd	49021 Whye Wah Devt & Constrn Sg Kadut St 1	49029 Sit Ley Timber Sg Kadut St 1	49199 Kranji Resvr Pk B Kranji Way
49209 Sg Buloh Wetland Reserve Neo Tiew Cres	50169 Aft Irrawaddy Rd Balestier Rd	51091 Opp Catholic JC PIE	56061 Aft Tagore Dr Upp Thomson Rd	56081 Bef SLE Upp Thomson Rd
58019 Aft Sembawang Shop Ctr Sembawang Rd	Sembawang Shopping Centre	66391 Lor Chuan Stn Exit A S'goon Ave 3	66409 Opp Golden Hts S'goon Ave 3	80069 Opp Mohd Salleh Mque Geylang Rd	82141 Aft Koon Seng Rd Tembeling Rd
97149 Aft VICOM Changi Nth St 1

Service 170X

For the past few months, I noticed 170X starts from Kranji station (Berth 2) instead of Opp Kranji station. Not too sure of the routing 170X took cause I didn't take 170X from Kranji. SBS Transit staff is present there to manage and guide commuters, so suspected already route amendment without announcement. Didn't really spotted any 170X anymore at Opp Kranji Station (45131).

Re: Nearby Attractions

As far as I had done, I will try my best to add in big shopping mall when creating the pages, especially those near interchanges, and tourist attractions like 858 (Jewel) and 138 (Mandai Zoo etc). But of course there may be some part where I can missed out. I don't think school should be included, nor those neighbourhood malls, nor some temple/mosque (unless prominent ones where tourist/local would visited). Maybe there should be a better heading?

Opinion

Hi,

Thank you for sharing your feedback on the proposed changes earlier. I am pleased to inform you that the bus spotting page has been launched, which I believe will assist editors in verifying deployment accuracy and enhancing the reliability of current deployment information.

To address concerns regarding potential false entries on the spotting page, I trust in the integrity of our editors to avoid posting hypothetical or inaccurate information. Additionally, I have implemented features such as Date/Time stamps and Editor attribution to reinforce accountability.

Regarding the subpages, I have launched the following: Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2). Deployment details have been transferred to the respective subpages.

As a trial, I finalised the layout for the first subpage: Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)/1, incorporating your valuable feedback.

Please confirm if the following criteria are met:

1. Clear visibility and usability on mobile devices.
2. Ease of information references.

If you have additional suggestions for improving the subpage layout, please do not hesitate to share your input. Thank you for your time and constructive feedback.

Regards, Supernutorcrazy

Re:

Hi,

Using your example:

Registration no.	Deployment	Advertisement	Former Deployments
SG3101K	KCDEPSP	N/A	LTA Storage: N/A
SG3102H	SWDEP86	L & R: Championing Sustainable Mobility. B: We Operate The Downtown Line Which Is One Of The World's Most Reliable MRT Lines. We Are Also Singapore's Largest And Most Established Public Bus Operator.	SBS Transit: AMDEP 86 (Dec 2024 - Jan 2025)
SG3103E	SWDEP86	Luen Fook Medicine Co Pte Ltd - African Sea-Coconut Brand Cough Mixture 非洲海底椰標止咳露: Effective Against Coughs & Loosens Phlegm. Soothes Irritated & Sore Throats. 止咳化痰 润喉顺气. Relief You Can Trust Since 1945. Made In Singapore. (5th Gen: Yellow & Red)	SBS Transit: AMDEP 86 (Dec 2024 - Jan 2025)
SG3104C	SWDEP86	Land Transport Authority: Welcoming Our 10 New Electric Buses!	SBS Transit: AMDEP 130 (Jun 2008 - May 2016), AMDEP SP (May 2016 - Aug 2016), AMDEP 21 (Aug 2016 - Oct 2016), AMDEP 13 (Oct 2016 - Dec 2016), AMDEP SP (Dec 2016 - Sep 2017), BNDEP 5 (Sep 2017 - Nov 2018), HGDEP SP (Nov 2018 - Dec 2018), HGDEP 112 (Dec 2018 - Apr 2022), HGDEP SP (Apr 2022 - Dec 2022), HGDEP 156 (Dec 2022 - Jan 2025)

I tried to refrain from using "rowspan" because of the missing line or long scrolling effect, but this is the outcome at Scania subpage, which I chose the 2 longest one available. I'm thinking there may be more longer one at other deployment page, and it feel cramp or cause a long scrolling effect, I feel. Not too sure about you or other. If that is ok, like my previous response, I'm fine with it. But the issue we need to tackle is long-scrolling on mobile.

Regards

Merging of Euro Emission & Batches

Hi,

Do you think we should merge the Euro Emission and Batches as we moves to subpage. This make it easier to link from Deployment by service pages back to model, and bus community will find it easier to find/track a bus rather than remembering the batches.

So it will be like this:

Registration no.	Deployment	Batches (Optional Column)	Advertisement	Former Deployments

Bodywork differences such as Volvo B9TL CDGE/WEG/Gemilang will not be affected, similiarily to 2D/3D variants.