User:Bendemeer

User:Bendemeer Happy SG60!

My heavy criticism on sgWiki

Message to supernutorcrazy

A few weeks ago as of me writing this message (25 February 2025), I got word that you have called people like me entitled and that we are the problem because we have been criticising on the new looks and designs on sgWiki so I have decided to respond on this matter.

Firstly, the old design is already perfect enough and is already easily navigatable. But I understand that some things have to change as time goes on but unfortunately, this isn't the case. The new table layout is somewhat easy to read since everything is already merged into one but it is currently difficult to navigate and find specific information as everything is separated into pages or subpages which is unnecessary.

Secondly, I'm glad that you and other editors fixed the readability of Template:Livery/SBST and other liveries and that y'all introduced those templates inorder for users to easily understand which buses have which livery. I'm currently not against that, but others would.

Thirdly, we're not entitled. It's you that are in your own delusions. Currently, there are a lot of people complaining about most of the new looks like the subpages for the bus models as it requires people to navigate between 3-6 subpages when it all could've been compiled in one big page like before.

Fourth, even though I don't have to address this but I still have to. I've read the SgWiki:Manifesto 2025 and I just wanted to point out a few users that you have thanked.

• BusFan74 & Gabrielcheong have been doing the opposite of what you thought they were doing. A lot of deployment details are currently either false or missing and there isn't any way to correct or bring back the information as there wasn't enough evidence.

And finally, "So if you are to proceed with your plan and use here as your reference point, you will know the pain". What pain are you exactly talking about. A lot of editors have done more than what you have contributed to this wiki. Is there anything you have done remarkable to this wiki or are you here to incessantly bicker about how tiring maintaining this wiki is and victimising yourself to an unbearable extent?

In conclusion, you should either change your way of thinking, try to be a good administrator and take one ounce of criticism or don't at all, whine and continue living in your own delusions.

The Warning System

I can't believe I have to now add on to this but I got word that a few people have received warnings for not editing pages properly (Forgetting to update some respective pages etc.).

This should not warrant any warnings any at all because other editors are able to continue from the previous edit and update other pages when needed. For example, if someone edited the deployment of SBS5231T from 5/5A*/5B* to SP, others can help and update Bus Service 5 and Spare Buses instead of dishing out a warning to the editor.

Not to mention, there are a bunch of pages that I've noticed weren't updated as well (Example: Bus Service 70M still listed SG1785A as a part of its fleet even though it's transferred to SMRT 2 months ago) and the editor did not receive a warning even though it should warrant one.

In conclusion, the administrative team (even if it's only User:Supernutorcrazy) should claim this reasoning as invalid before giving warnings to editors as it should not even happen in the first place. The editors should help out instead of reporting others.

Signing off, Bendemeer (talk) 17:41, 9 June 2025 (+08).

My reps

Registration no.	Deployment	Advertisement
SBS7566P	BBDEP 165	N/A
SBS8148G	De-registered	Tung Lok Seafood 同乐海鲜: Unique Creations From The Heart 用心创佳肴 但求美食传. Featured Dishes - L & R: Wasabi Mayo Prawn, Grilled Fish In Collagen Broth, Salted Egg Fish Skin & Signature Chilli Crab & B: Signature Chilli Crab. (3rd Gen)
SBS8853D	SWDEP 166	BT: Rokeby: All Natural Protein. Fresh Milk. No Powders. Rokeby Set Go
SG2017C	SEDEP 71	N/A
SG5509E	SEDEP 71

My former reps

Registration no.	Deployment	Advertisement
SBS7679Y	BBDEP 7	N/A
SG1000G	SEDEP 135	NS & OS: Cycle & Carriage: 1000th Citaro Celebrations.
SG1721J	UPDEP 16	Medic Marketing Pte Ltd - Biocalth: L & B: Helps Strengthen Bones And Support Joints. R: 同时强化骨骼与保健关节. (2nd Gen)
SG1749E	UPDEP 121	N/A
SMB3141S	SEDEP 851

The worst buses I've ever taken

Registration no.	Deployment	Reason	Advertisement
SBS3333X	BUDEP FD	Weak air-conditioning/Very warm inside	B: American Tourister - Find Fun Tokyo Edition. americantourister.com.sg/find-fun.
SBS6064C	SEDEP SP		N/A
SG5040P	SEDEP 851
SG5302J	SEDEP 806
SG5908L	LYDEP FD	Sways too much

Rides

Services I Have Ridden Before

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Series	Route
0x	2, 3, 5, 7, 8
1x	13, 18
2x	22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28
3x	31, 35, 37, 39
4x
5x	50, 51, 52, 55, 56, 57, 59
6x	61, 63, 65, 67, 68
7x	71, 73, 74, 77
8x	80, 81, 84, 86, 88
9x	93, 97
10x	100, 103, 105, 106, 107/107M, 109
11x	110, 111, 117
12x	125, 127, 129
13x	130, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 138/138M, 139
14x	141, 143, 145, 147
15x	153, 154, 155, 157, 158, 159
16x	160, 161, 162/162M, 163, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169
17x	170/170X, 171, 172, 174, 178
18x	180, 187, 189
19x, 20x	190, 197 201
Bedok Feeder (22x)	222
Toa Payoh Feeder (23x)	230, 231, 232, 238
Boon Lay Feeder (24x)	242, 243G
25x
Ang Mo Kio Feeder (26x)	262, 265, 269
Bukit Merah Feeder (27x)
Clementi Feeder (28x)
Tampines Feeder	293, 296
Choa Chu Kang Feeder (30x)	300, 301, 307
Serangoon Feeder (31x)
Hougang Feeder (32x)	324, 329
Jurong East Feeder (33x)
Pasir Ris Feeder (35x)
Sengkang Feeder (37x)
Punggol Feeder (38x)	381, 384
40x	405
Express (50x, 51x)	502, 506
City Direct (65x, 66x, 67x)
Yishun Feeder (80x, 81x)	800, 803, 806, 807 811
82x, 85x	825 851/851e, 852, 853/853M, 854, 855, 857, 859/859A/859B
86x, 87x	870, 871
88x	882
Woodlands Feeder (90x, 91x)	900, 902
92x
Bukit Batok Feeder (94x)	944
95x, 96x	950 964, 965, 966, 969
97x	970, 974, 975
98x	980, 985
99x	991, 992, 993
Others	IKEA TampinesShuttle (Serangoon) MKS Sentosa (Bus A, RWS8, Beach Tram) Tampines Retail Park Shuttle (Bedok, Sengkang) T4 Shuttle (T2 <-> T4)

Retiring Models I Have Ridden Before

Taken from my ride logs, thus only rides from July 2023 onwards are shown here.

C151 (KHI)

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Train set	Recent Ride	Line	Status	Previous Rides
017/018	13 February 2024	EWL	In Service	CGL (28 September 2023)
025/026	26 December 2024	NSL	Decommissioned 025 sent for scrap on 26 May 2025; 026 sent for scrap on 28 May 2025.	CGL (25 November 2023)
039/040	28 September 2023	EWL	Decommissioned 040 sent for scrap on 18 Aug 2025.	N/A
049/050	28 September 2023		Decommissioned 049 sent for scrap on 24 Apr 2024; 050 sent for scrap on 27 Apr 2024.
057/058	31 August 2024		Not Spotted (Last seen on 22 Nov 2024)
059/060	7 September 2023	NSL	Decommissioned 059 sent for scrap on 26 Dec 2024.
075/076	10 June 2023	CGL	Not Spotted (Last seen on 14 Mar 2025)
081/082	28 September 2023	NSL	Decommissioned 082 sent for scrap on 27 June 2024
083/084	27 August 2023		Decommissioned 084 sent for scrap on 13 August 2024
097/098	13 February 2024	EWL	Decommissioned 098 sent for scrap on 28 Feb 2024; Cars 1097 and 2097 sent for scrap on 02 Mar 2024.
105/106	10 June 2023		In Service
111/112	13 April 2024	NSL	Decommissioned 112 sent for scrap on 23 Jun 2025
121/122	18 June 2025		In Service

C651 (SIE)

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Train set	Recent Ride	Line	Status	Previous Rides
201/202	28 September 2023	CGL	Decommissioned 201 sent for scrap on 9 Nov 2024; 202 sent for scrap on 16 Nov 2024.	NSL (26 February 2023, 25 June 2023)

C751B (KNS)

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Train set	Recent Ride	Line	Status
311/312	16 June 2024	NSL	Decommissioned 312 sent for scrap on 03 Jul 2024; 311 sent for scrap on 06 Jul 2024.
317/318	28 September 2023	EWL	Decommissioned Car 2317 repurposed for EcoTrain@City Square Mall, cars 3317 and 1317 sent for scrap on 18 Sep 2024. 318 sent for scrap on 21 Sep 2024.
327/328	10 December 2023	NSL	Decommissioned 327 sent for scrap on 06 Mar 2024; 328 sent for scrap on 12 Mar 2024.
335/336	29 June 2024		Decommissioned 335 sent for scrap on 14 Aug 2024; 336 sent for scrap on 17 Aug 2024.
337/338	20 July 2024		Decommissioned Cars 1338 and 2338 sent for scrap on 07 Dec 2024; Cars 1337 and 2338 sent for scrap on 11 Dec 2024
341/342	8 June 2024		Decommissioned 341 sent for scrap on 16 Oct 2024; 342 sent for scrap on 19 Oct 2024.

Mercedes-Benz OC500LE (Batch 1)

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Recent ride	Service	Status	Previous rides
SMB18K	Oct 2025	6 June 2025	975	In Service	N/A
SMB25P	Nov 2025	19 August 2025	980
SMB29D		22 January 2025	855		882 (16 June 2023)
SMB34M		18 September 2023	855		980 (18 September 2023)
SMB46D	Dec 2025	9 September 2023	853		N/A
SMB51M		7 July 2024	853M
SMB52K		16 May 2025	857
SMB60L		24 July 2024	853

Mercedes-Benz OC500LE (Batch 2)

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Recent ride	Service	Status	Previous rides
SMB80D	Jul 2026	6 June 2025	975	In Service	N/A
SMB96J		14 February 2025	855
SMB98D		24 March 2024	172
SMB100E		6 June 2025	171		855 (16 June 2023) (17 September 2024)
SMB102A		10 January 2025	855		N/A
SMB109G	Aug 2026	22 November 2024	975
SMB120Y	Sep 2026	16 June 2023	882
SMB132M		10 March 2024	853M

Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 1)

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Most recent ride	Service	Status	Previous rides
SBS8041E	Oct 2026	5 March 2025	132	In Service	N/A
SBS8067G	Nov 2026	12 April 2024	132		132 (1 March 2024)
SBS8069B		29 July 2024	Template:Bus/166		Template:Bus/165 (12 July 2023)
SBS8071T		19 August 2024	Template:Bus/165		N/A
SBS8080S	Dec 2026	2 August 2025	22
SBS8100T		31 December 2024	56
SBS8109U		13 May 2025	262
SBS8111L	Dec 2024	17 February 2023	132	De-registered & Scrapped
SBS8117X	Dec 2026	7 February 2025	262	In Service	Template:Bus/165 (11 August 2023)
SBS8118T		26 February 2024	165		N/A
SBS8119R		18 August 2025	165
SBS8138K	Oct 2026	30 September 2024	Template:Bus/165

Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)

SBS8132B - SBS8285T

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Most recent ride	Service	Status	Remarks	Previous rides
SBS8132B	Apr 2027	8 October 2024	163	In Service	Lifespan extended	N/A
SBS8137M		16 January 2025	165
SBS8145P		18 March 2025	165			165 (18 August 2023, 23 February 2024, 15 April 2024, 28 June 2024)
SBS8147J		13 August 2025	410G			N/A
SBS8148G	Apr 2025	19 February 2025	132	De-registered		132 (13 November 2024, 28 January 2025)
SBS8159A	Apr 2027	7 August 2025	132	In Service	Lifespan extended	165 (27 July 2023)
SBS8163L	Apr 2025	23 August 2024	165	De-registered & Scrapped		165 (5 August 2024)
SBS8164J		6 March 2024	132			N/A
SBS8167B	Apr 2027	4 October 2024	165	In Service	Lifespan extended	165 (13 July 2023, 20 July 2023, 13 September 2023, 29 February 2024, 5 April 2024, 9 April 2024, 19 April 2024, 26 June 2024, 2 July 2024, 9 July 2024, 31 July 2024)
SBS8171M	May 2025	3 January 2025	165	De-registered		165 (16 October 2024, 17 October 2024, 24 October 2024)
SBS8172K	May 2027	4 January 2025	74	In Service	Lifespan extended	N/A
SBS8173H		8 May 2025	165			165 (15 January 2024, 13 February 2025)
SBS8182G	May 2025	24 April 2024	165	De-registered		N/A
SBS8184B		28 August 2023	Template:Bus/166
SBS8187T	May 2027	28 February 2025	74	In Service	Lifespan extended
SBS8188R	May 2025	14 November 2024	165	De-registered
SBS8205A	June 2027	31 August 2024	296	In Service	Lifespan extended
SBS8211G	Jun 2025	14 October 2024	165	De-registered		165 (17 July 2023, 24 July 2023, 14 August 2023, 23 October 2023, 17 January 2024, 29 January 2024, 19 February 2024, 1 April 2024, 12 August 2024)
SBS8216T	Jun 2027	8 August 2025	105	In Service	Lifespan extended	N/A
SBS8220E		4 July 2025	262
SBS8235M	Jun 2025	23 January 2025	165	De-registered		165 (31 August 2023, 10 January 2024, 20 March 2024)
SBS8259U	Jul 2027	20 January 2024	22	In Service	Lifespan extended	N/A
SBS8260P		13 January 2024	159			159 (10 June 2023)
SBS8272E	Jul 2025	2 December 2024	86	De-registered		N/A
SBS8279L	Jul 2027	25 June 2025	262	In Service	Lifespan extended
SBS8282B		18 January 2025	238
SBS8285T	Aug 2027	21 January 2025	165			165 (25 March 2024)

SBS8301E - SBS8555P

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Most recent ride	Service	Status	Remarks	Previous rides
SBS8301E	Aug 2025	18 January 2025	238	De-registered		N/A
SBS8331T	Sep 2025	16 July 2025	851	In Service	1 month left until end of lifespan
SBS8335H		24 December 2024	993
SBS8336E		1 August 2024	132
SBS8351K	Oct 2025	19 January 2024	132		2 months until end of lifespan
SBS8367R		29 July 2025	262
SBS8368M		3 July 2025	262			262 (20 June 2025)
SBS8369K		11 July 2025	262			N/A
SBS8378J		21 May 2025	410G
SBS8389C		29 April 2025	165			165 (3 March 2025, 7 April 2025)
SBS8399Z	Nov 2025	11 April 2024	Template:Bus/166		N/A	N/A
SBS8431M	Dec 2025	18 August 2023	Template:Bus/166			Template:Bus/166 (16 August 2023)
SBS8432K		14 February 2025	93			N/A
SBS8433H	Apr 2027	14 April 2025	165		Lifespan extended
SBS8434E		9 May 2025	165
SBS8445Z	Apr 2025	22 October 2024	165	De-registered
SBS8448R	Apr 2027	29 April 2025	165	In Service	Lifespan extended
SBS8455U	Apr 2025	19 March 2024	52	De-registered & Scrapped
SBS8459J	Apr 2027	7 July 2025	52	In Service	Lifespan extended
SBS8469E	May 2025	15 November 2024	Template:Bus/166	De-registered
SBS8471Y		9 May 2025	Template:Bus/166			Template:Bus/166 (2 February 2024, 24 June 2024, 22 July 2024, 16 September 2024)
SBS8485H	Jun 2027	31 October 2023	Template:Bus/166	In Service	Lifespan extended	N/A
SBS8489Y		25 October 2023	132			132 (1 August 2023)
SBS8496B	Nov 2025	20 December 2023	238		N/A	N/A
SBS8500Y		24 February 2025	165			Template:Bus/159 (18 January 2025)
SBS8503P		1 July 2025	165			N/A
SBS8509Z	Dec 2025	11 February 2023	157
SBS8512M		17 April 2025	132
SBS8525B		20 August 2025	163			132 (6 May 2025)
SBS8552Y	Jan 2026	6 December 2024	165			165 (15 November 2024)
SBS8555P		13 May 2024	Template:Bus/166			N/A

Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)

WIP

SBS8575G - SBS8777R

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Rego	Lifespan expiry date (MM/YY)	Most recent ride	Service	Status	Previous rides
SBS8575G	March 2026	2 March 2025	405	In Service	N/A
SBS8579X		20 February 2025	166		166 (24 January 2025, 10 February 2025)
SBS8602L	April 2026	19 June 2025	222		N/A
SBS8605D		27 November 2024	13
SBS8606B	May 2026	23 February 2024	22
SBS8615A		3 July 2025	165
SBS8623B		8 August 2025	162
SBS8625X		4 June 2025	262
SBS8635S		6 April 2024	26
SBS8636P		24 June 2025	13
SBS8665E	June 2026	2 December 2024	13
SBS8672J		25 June 2025	153
SBS8676Z		2 July 2025	163

Review on the bus models

All bus models are listed in chronological order based on when the first unit was registered

Bus Model	Rating	Reasoning
Scania K230UB	7/10	The air-conditioning is mostly strong which is ideal for Singapore's humid climate. The seats are comfortable but the only downside to this is how some buses are shaky and how loud the engines are.
Mercedes-Benz OC500LE	7/10	Same reasons for the K230UB although the engine isn't loud.
Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro	5/10	The reason why this is rated 5/10 is because some units have great air conditioning while some units was very hot inside. The seats are thin which makes it lack comfort (only on units that are built to SBS Transit specifications) and the air conditioners aren't adjustable.
Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2)	9/10	Peak bus design. The air conditioning is strong, the seats are comfortable and the engine isn't very loud and distracting which makes the ride experience peaceful (if there are barely any passengers
MAN NL323F (A22) (E5)	4/10	Air conditioning is either barely present or not strong enough in most units which makes it hot and stuffy during very hot weather. The only good side is it's very fast acceleration which makes it suitable for Express routes but the decceleration could make passengers trip due to how fast it is.
MAN NG363F	5/10	The ride is a bit shaky sometimes but it's still bearable. The cool thing about this is sitting on the rear and watching the entire bus turn left and right.
MAN ND323F (A95) (E5)	8/10	Air conditioning is strong, the bus isn't shaky most of the time and the engine isn't loud. Plus, like the A22, the acceleration is fast. Overall, the ride experience is peaceful.
Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (2-Door)	2/10	Absolutely horrible. The air conditioning is barely present. There's an annoying vibration when the bus is idle. The bus is very shaky and rocky which makes the ride experience hard to enjoy. Disapproved.
MAN NL323F (A22) (E6)	1/10	Bloody hell, who designed this bus? Weak air conditioning, shaky most of the time. It's even more worse with the annoying door closing beeping which can make it overwhelming plus the announcements are barely audible which is hard for those with visual impairment to know where they are.
MAN ND323F (A95) (E6)	8/10	It's as good as the E5 version. The announcements are loud and clear so bonus for that. Plus the door closing beeping isn't loud and distracting. Thumbs up man!!!
Volvo B5LH	8/10	It is great, the announcements are clear. The acceleration is perfect and it's almost as peak as the B9TL.
BYD K9 (Gemilang)	6/10	The decceleration needs to be downtuned a bit since it's way too fast. Overall, the air conditioning is alright. The door closing beeping is still distracting though and there are still some flaws but it's still okay.
Yutong E12	5/10	The beeping from the turn signals is a bit off for me but overall, everything is okay but the seats aren't comfortable.
Yutong E12DD	5/10
Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (3-Door)	7/10	Great improvement from the 2-Door variant. The air conditioning is a bit okay but it isn't very shaky like the 2-Door variant.
BYD B12A03	5/10	It's bad but it's also good. There are still some flaws like the wireless charging (which is a terrible idea) and the air conditioning isn't great but the overall design is good.
BYD BC12A04	5/10	The interior design is fairly decent. The acceleration & decceleration is great. The only flaw is that there's too much reliance on technology like digital mirrors and automatic wheelchair ramp (which is very slow). Some of the AC is not adjustable for some reason.
Zhongtong N12	8/10	It's surpringsly good for a Chinese ebus. Acceleration is great but it's too fast but it's not a 10 cuz same reasons for BC12A04.