User talk:23ispolo
Suspected Redeployments (to be edited if confirmed)
Note: All deployments stated here are suspected, and still require confirmation. I suggest using this information as a guide for possible redeployments, as stating them here does not mean that they have actually happened. If the information is confirmed either to be accurate or inaccurate, including through edits by myself and/or other editors, the relevant suspected deployments will be removed or edited accordingly. Thank you for reading.
SBS Transit:
BNDEP:
SBS3102X - BNDEP 196 > BNDEP 291
SBS3100B - BNDEP 291 > BNDEP 196
TEL3 downsizes / 39 upsizes
SBS3796T & SBS3799K - BNDEP 28 > BNDEP 39 - spotted both buses on 39 over the past two weeks. I suspect both of them are either fleet adds or upsizes for 39, joining SBS3678B which was taken from 10 recently.
SG1744T - BNDEP 39 > BNDEP 65
SBS3744T - BNDEP 65 > BNDEP 39
SBS8932J & SBS8989X - SWDEP SP > BNDEP 28 (not HGDEP/BNDEP SP) - both buses have been spotted on 28 in recent weeks, and seem to be on BNDEP slots. I suspect 28 has these two buses as downsizes from SBS3796T & SBS3799K. That said, only edit SBS8932J as BNDEP if the bus is confirmed to be in BNDEP (and thus not in HGDEP).
HGDEP:
SBS3728R - HGDEP 52 > HGDEP 59 - bus has not been seen on 52 for months, and is likely being replaced by SBS8459J on 52. This downsize is probably related to 52 having upsizes for UPDEP blks earlier this year.
SG5341X - HGDEP 60 > HGDEP 103 - unsure if it is an upsize from an SD, or swap with/replacement for SBS3183L or SBS3215D.
SEDEP:
SBS3889J - SEDEP 13 > SEDEP 72
SG6101R - SEDEP 72 > SEDEP 13
SG1169D - SEDEP 130 > SEDEP 852
SBS3654U & SBS7579C - SEDEP 168 > SEDEP 168/168A* - iinw, for Weekdays PM Peak, SBS7579C is the 1st 168A bus, followed by SBS3654U as the 2nd 168A bus.
SBS8044Y - SEDEP SP > SEDEP 261
SWDEP:
SG5347E & SG5397K - SWDEP 25 > SWDEP 50
SBS3169D & SBS3849A - SWDEP 50 > SWDEP 25 (not SP)
SBS7715B - SWDEP 87 > SWDEP 151 - bus has been spotted by others on 151 regularly following the pasting of its JobStreet ad.
SBS3686C - SWDEP 151 > SWDEP 87
SG5916M - SWDEP 151 > SWDEP 51
SG6043A - SWDEP 117 > SWDEP 51
SG6044Y - SWDEP 117 > SWDEP 89
SG6005K - SWDEP 671 > (SWDEP 161 >) SWDEP 50 - bus was spotted on 161 a few times in July, and now seems sticky to 50.
SG5900H & SG5901E - SWDEP 672 > SWDEP 51
161 suspected redeployments:
• Incoming buses:
SBS3900J - SWDEP 25 > SWDEP 161
SBS3786Y, SBS3792D & SBS3954D - SWDEP 51 > SWDEP 161 - KIV whether SBS3933P is sticky to 161 or still on 51 for now.
SG5555X - SWDEP 87 > SWDEP 161
SBS3217Z & SBS3951L - SWDEP 89 > SWDEP 161
SBS3719S - SWDEP 89/153* > SWDEP 161
• Outgoing buses:
SG5938A, SG6077C, SG6087Z, SG6146L & SG6247D - SWDEP 161 > SWDEP 51
SG6088X - SWDEP 161 > SWDEP 89 or 89/153*
SG6099P - SWDEP 161 > SWDEP 89
SMRT Buses:
KJDEP:
SMB315C, SMB1323Y, SMB1508G & SMB1594G - KJDEP 172 > KJDEP 61
SMB5017E - KJDEP 184 > KJDEP 972 or 979 or SP - bus has been on services that park at WLBP (e.g. 972, 979) for at least one to two weeks.
SMB1513R - KJDEP 927/985* > KJDEP SP or 67 - bus seen running around on various services (e.g. 61, 67 & 176); KIV swap with SMB1384X.
SMB337P & SMB339J - KJDEP 973 > KJDEP 75
SMB291L - KJDEP SP > KJDEP 61
SLDEP:
SBS3806Z - SLDEP 254 > SLDEP 185
WLDEP:
SMB1469K - WLDEP 902/WT 15 > WLDEP 902/WT 15//901M
SG5426K - WLDEP 960 > WLDEP 67 - bus is sticky to the same Weekdays slot on 67; I don't see this bus on 960 myself. On the other hand, I have not really seen SG5451L or SG5452J regularly on 67, unless that is due to not being able to spot them on service.
UPD decals
UPD stickers are gradually coming back. You mind listing what you see here then
Reply (23ispolo):
This table presents buses with UPD stickers based on cross-checking the regos with my memory, other than some unconfirmed buses from 145 (i.e. SBS5030G, SBS6222M & SBS8297J). There may still be buses that are not 145 perm anymore, but still have the white UPD sticker. Moreover, some UPDEP buses do not have either blue or white UPD stickers (e.g. SBS8770J & SG5544C), or have a plain blue sticker (which I did not include here). Otherwise, this should be accurate unless I missed out regos by accident.
Buses with "UPD" windscreen decal
| Click to expand/collapse | ||
|---|---|---|
| BNDEP | UPD
|
SBS6075X SBS6121X SBS6139X SBS6192R SBS6193M SG1227U |
| HGDEP | UPD
|
SBS6222M |
| UPDEP | UPD
|
SMB3038H SMB3040A SMB3042U SMB3043S SMB3077U SMB3078S SMB3080J SMB3081G SMB3082D SMB3094U SG1705G SG1709X SG1710R SG1711M SG1714E SG1715C SG1716A SG1721J SG1722G SG1749E SG1857B SG1859X SG1860R SG1862K SG1863H SG1864E SG1865C SG1866A SG1867Y SG1868U SG1876X SG1882C SG1883A SG1889J |
UPD
|
SBS6033S SBS6034P SBS6043M SBS6044K SBS6049Y SBS6050S SBS6072D SBS6091Z SBS6099C SBS6136D SBS6187G SBS6224H SBS6237X SBS6271X SBS6387X SBS6633K SBS6644D SBS6654A SBS6668K SBS6669H SBS6693L SBS6698Z SBS6700A SBS6717C SBS6719Y SBS6734C SBS6736Y SBS6744Z SBS6759G SBS6760B SBS6762X SBS6781R SBS6791L SBS6814E SBS6838L SBS6863M SG1166L | |
Reply (Alphabetlorefan1)
Hi 23ispolo, I saw your table listing the UPD stickers on your talk page. However, I would like to say that I spotted more buses with the UPD sticker
White UPD
SBS8987B
Scania K230UB
SBS3027E
Volvo B9TL
Just a general question, will it be ok if I can edit your UPD table when I spotted more buses with the UPD sticker pasted?
Thanks
Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 10 August 2025, 22:45
Reply (23ispolo):
Hi Alphabetlorefan1,
Thanks for your message. Yes, it is okay to edit the UPD sticker table (section 2.1.1) if you happen to spot more buses pasted with a white or blue UPD sticker, as well as any buses with their white/blue UPD sticker removed.
If you have any other questions for me regarding this or another matter, you may message me here. Thank you.
Regards,
23ispolo
Reply
Hi, thanks for the reply. I will edit your table if I see more UPD stickers pasted on buses.
Thanks
Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 11 August 2025, 22:42
SMRT bus duties, 176
How can I add in a box for individual SMRT bus duties of dual-depot services, like 176? --23ispolo (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2014 (SGT)
I have added two tables under Service 176 section. Do add in the duty codes too. Thank you.
SMB1341U (talk) 14:20 31/05/2014 (SGT)
Thank you. However, I need to confirm some of the slots of the buses, like SMB1400H - SMB1402C and TIB544E. So, I will leave their duties under 'TBC', before I confirm their actual slots. But great thanks for your help! :)--23ispolo (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2014 (SGT)
Hi 23ispolo, do note that when you add in new box under a service, do check to see if the box fits well like utilising the space if needed to put into two rows rather than putting it all into one single box. As some buses have many slots, the shifts gets rather confusing with the bus under the slot. Leaving a huge colspan dash - for the saturdays and sundays is rather not necessary.
And also check to see if the box is okay if you do happen to use a mobile to access the particular service you have created a box for. As for some of the edits Ive done, Ive ensured that the box does not overflow out of the sgwiki page for that service as I was told from wikipedia. Cheers and good day!
UPDEP 80 DDs
Hi 23ispolo,
It would be great if we had a way to mark standby buses in the roster, as currently now SBST and SMRT adopted this strategy of keeping a spare fleet, by using extra buses from other services. Whether my edits are true or not, my edits are according to the buses being marked in the schedule, as well as the fleet assigned to them.
Of course day to day deployments will vary everyday, I highly suspect that some SBST depots might be moving into the TTS deployment strategy, where the roster is not followed at all and any buses can be deployed. (AMDEP I’m looking at you)
Overall, just trying to help the community with the insider information I have. Of course some fanboys of a particular service (cough cough Service 190) can’t take the changes and just undid my edits. :(
Thanks for reading.
Regards,
Haram
BRBP Bus schedules
Hi 23ispolo
Where do you find duty table for Service 31? What about other services?
Regards,
BOG
RE: HGDEP buses parking in Sengkang West Depot
Hi there, SBS3720L here.
Understood there are buses like SBS3053D, SG5325T with RED stickers but from Services that are non sengkang-hougang.
As far as I heard, re-deployment of buses are expected.
Based on what I see thus far, seems to support the re-deployment theory, as:
- 6079K (64 bus) - On 159
- 6090B, 6147Y, 6237X (109/315 buses) - Spotted 2 consequetive days on 27
- 8119R (315 bus) - On 151
Will have to see in the coming Weekdays if that holds true, as the stickers were first spotted Saturday morning on various hougang int services (21 Dec)
Update: - Seems like clementi package buses are also being moved to Sengkang west, as seen with 6190X (156) and 3057T (147) currently. Although they are currently a mixture of red and non red tags. - 27 & possibly 329 moved to full sengkang west w.e.f tdy, as all deployed buses carries red tag. Only can confirm 30 of the 35 buses currently. Can only be denoted when extremely sure there are non red tag buses deployed on them. - Services like 102, 107, 112, 153, 161, 165, 325 are still doing dual deployment.
Cheers!
190 deployment
Hi hi,
Those E500 you mention are still on 190 on a regular basis. In fact, 190 and 176 DDs are interchangeable and 184 nowadays run flexi so it is common in place for random E500 cameo 184.
5026D was assign to a perm slot and part of 190 roster saw for 4 continuous day this week; 5032K rotate 190 and 176.
As for the SDs, yup indeed 1638P unperm 190 since 18 December 2024. 84T should be still 190 perm as very commonplace for 176 and 190 OCs to run 985. As for the GB sticker you mention, not sure but recently buses that cameo 190 have a lot, in particular SMB234C have been on same slot so could be a swap over.
HGDEP and BRBP buses deployments
Hi 23ispolo,
I would like to follow up regarding SG6176A deployment on Service 88 currently. The way HGDEP (AMDEP) and BRBP does the deployment and to determine whether the bus (e.g. 6176A on Service 88) is permanent to Service 88 is dependent on the bus duty it is allocated too. Usually, split duty (S-shift) buses are the ones that cannot determine whether that particular unit is permanent to that service, however, morning and night duties are likely to determine the current deployment since the buses allocated to those BCs are fixed and the duty slot would be specifically for that unit. In the case of 6176A being deployed on Svc 88, that particular day was rostered on a night shift duty schedule under BRBP's scheduling for Svc 88. I have been observing how BRBP and HGDEP interchange their deployment for a long time and I think this is the way they do it. However, this is just my speculation and 6176A might go back to HGDEP for 59 again, but I'm messaging this to inform you why I stated that 6176A is going to Braddell as I felt that I did not give a specific reason for shifting 6176A from 59 to 88, that's about it.
Another thing I would like to discuss on is regarding the current depot allocation for HGDEP and BRBP bus services on the website. I think it's best to separate HGDEP and BRBP buses into their own Depots again (e.g. SG0000 | BRBP 00). Before AMDEP closed down, all BRBP buses also had AM on their DDUs, which is the same configuration as the current one where BRBP services have HG on their DDUs as well. While BRBP acts as a bus park for HGDEP, it still operates independently and controls the existing Braddell services while HGDEP controls the previous Ang Mo Kio services along with some services from Hougang such as Service 101. If I'm not wrong, the reason why some services like 72 and 168 transferred to other depots was because HGDEP wants to bring some BRBP services into HGDEP and operate from there, while I won't disclose which services are likely to get pulled into HGDEP from BRBP side, I think it's best to still separate HGDEP and BRBP as a whole, otherwise, it would seem as if HGDEP is overloaded with services and buses. Anyways, I would like to hear from you regarding my suggestion, thanks for reading!
Regards, BOG
965/969 Crossover
Hi,
I would like to share my observation which can help you to aid in the crossover for 965/969. I noticed that 965 and 969 are more likely interchangeable rather than crossover. But it was limited. 969 is mainly A95 and ADL500 (3-Doors) DD (The ADL500 3-Doors are mainly perms) while 965 is ADL500 (2-Doors). There are days which ADL500 (3-Doors) (969) appears on 965/A, and if ADL500 (2-Doors) appears on 969, it may be from 965. As for SD, both share the same A22.
Regards
Supernutorcrazy (talk) 07:03, 30 July 2025 (+08)