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Rail Wiki Expansion

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.

Travel Time (East to West)

Yes, without any doubt we can give it a go, since 88 is a service present in Pasir Ris Int, and there are a handful of bus services 3/89/109 heading to TPE Punggol, which would be much efficient than a 58 to Kaki Bukit. We eliminate 58 since it takes the longest, and for 81 I will await your take for it. Then for going NSL stations we can put 168 to Woodlands alongside the option of 858 and 969 to Khatib twds the Jurong East direction, that way the crowd dispersal would be more effective. Pasir Ris bound I think we just put 858 969 only bah, and for 39 it would be up to the commuters to explore.

When the Pasir Ris page is modified it would have similar travel patterns as to those in Tampines and Changi Airport. Feel free to edit as much as you can too!

Side note, I will try update as many stations as I can, while for creating non-TEL stations (including transfer stations) that have TEL transfers, I have also published them in the talk pages while TEL3 hasn't opened. Expected area of scope would be NSL (as you have already seen) and many other CBD stations. Thanks and regards.

RE:81/Travel Time

Noted about your response on 81. I will make the necessary adjustments.

Travel time would take a lot of work, but we can give it a go! Because some of the alternative routes will eventually takes a few extra more mins, so it would be more informative.

Another thing I had in my bucket list for alternative pages was an exit number/alphabet beside the bus stop, but I am not sure if it works because most MRT stops already have labelled the exit names on them.

Re: Exits

A round up to the nearest 5 minutes is a good gauge, especially when there are traffic conditions/walking speed that may give variations. I would agree to that.

However, for rail transfer between lines, I believe there is more room to study about it. Because I think what we have never looked into is the walking distance between the lines, as well as how different stations sync their train arrivals, which translates to different station layouts. Base on my personal experience at MacPherson and Chinatown, where the transfer platforms are close to one another, some of the train arrivals sync together.

In addition, when it comes peak hours, the frequency of trains may be shorter until one can get onto a train easily, just as the examples of the NSEWL transfer stations that you have stated. On the opposite hand during off peak hours, if one cannot get onto a train/bus that smoothly, this might take more than 10 mins waiting time. So I do not think an average of 10 min waiting time is sufficient enough for a disclaimer. I am not enough of a train expert but I would like to understand from your perspective whether my thoughts make sense.

I would strongly support the inclusion of escalators and lifts in the station layout so that people from all walks of life can find clearer and better barrier free access! :)

Update (8th Nov)

I did some tidying up of the notes at Bendemeer, Promenade and the future Khatib (with updated TEL transfer) pages. Apologies that I read wrongly few days ago, I realised you said that the average MRT waiting time is 5 mins. Since I can agree on this point, I have put it as a 3rd pointer for all 3 pages. As for miscellaneous pointers except for road closures, they have been tucked into the respective destination stations. See if this arrangement is neater for the eye.

Side note I do disagree with the bus part though, though feeder service waiting times are guaranteed to be less than 10 minutes, a handful of trunk services might exceed 10 mins of waiting time eg. 5, 14, 39, 58, 141, 169, 855 etc., in which some might offer just single deckers. Exceptions include 63, 65, 67, 190 where buses keep spamming. Considering the demographics of the towns where the stations are located at, some crowds won't disperse that easily within 20 mins if options were to include low frequency trunk services. That's why in the case of Khatib I made a special notice at the CBD destinations that if one cannot get onto 855 or 860 on time, CDS is last resort.

Others like Chinese Garden or Maxwell, where conditions are still ok, I do as per normal.

Re: Walking distance between two nearby stations

Yes, I had also thought about walking between two stations before. Same had applied to walking from Marina Bay to Bayfront. However, my main concern is getting people to have a familiar sense of direction, especially those with poor navigation skills. Coincidentally, I had one real life experience where I once had tried to explain to an elderly person how to walk from CPF Maxwell to Outram Park where SGH is at, and it was extremely frustrating that I eventually showed the way under my guidance. That has been one tricky part, you know HAHAHAHAHA. As you know, Maxwell is one of those places with poor bus connections, not even one to Outram, so it has been something I had tried to figure out. I would consider it lucky that Service 80 was amended to detour around Cantonment in Sengkang direction, at least something to connect to Maxwell with a direct transfer!

Nonetheless if we want to include walking, I think we can just elaborate with road names people are familiar with, since Maxwell MRT Exit 3 is right at the entrance of Kreta Ayer Rd leading to New Bridge Rd.