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Hi! Apex-LW'21
I had a few friends and i often visit SMRT and SBS Transit (SgWiki), when press the link is link to Deployments and we have to scroll up to see the Specifications. This is not very practical. Most user outside perfer to see Specifications than Deployments, to understand different between each brand of buses. About the ( http://sgwiki.com/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_O530_Citaro ) add a link to Specifications would be better so that don't need to scroll up to see.
Example: This website: (http://sgwiki.com/wiki/Bus_Contracting_Model_(BCM)_Bus_Deployments) I didn't add any link to their Specifications, if you are a bus lover and want to see the Specifications, you only have a option to press the Deployments and then Scroll all the way up to see. This is very very far and not practical. Hope for your understanding. Thanks you.
Sincerely, Johnlyh77
Good Evening,<br>
One of the ways that I can do is to link up the existing particular bus models (currently without having any links) on the respective bus deployment pages, to the Specifications section.<br>
Please let me know if my suggestion to this is fine.<br>
--[[User:Apex-LW&#39;21|Apex-LW&#39;21]] ([[User talk:Apex-LW&#39;21|talk]]) 18:10, 24 July 2016 (SGT)
==Tower Transit==
===Single-deckers===
{| class="toccolours" border="1" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-bgcolor=#009548
!<font style="color:white;">Bus model</font>
!colspan="2"|<font style="color:white;">Registration no.</font>
!<font style="color:white;">WAB</font>
|-
|rowspan="2"|MAN NL323F
|SMRT [[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Specifications|(Batch 1)]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Tower Transit|SMB3001M – SMB3034T]]
!rowspan="2"|{{WAB}}
|-
|SMRT [[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Specifications|(Batch 2)]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Tower Transit|SMB3035R – SMB3051T, SMB3053M – SMB3074C & SMB3084Z]]
|}
Is this look better? By press the batch will go to their Specifications
Sincerely Johnlyh77
This one looks fine with me. But remove the 'SMRT' part in the column.
--[[User:Apex-LW&#39;21|Apex-LW&#39;21]] ([[User talk:Apex-LW&#39;21|talk]]) 05:27, 26 July 2016 (SGT)
Can i highlight production batch from which Company in this way?
===Single-deckers===
{| class="toccolours" border="1" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-bgcolor=#009548
!<font style="color:white;">Bus model</font>
!colspan="2"|<font style="color:white;">Registration no.</font>
!<font style="color:white;">WAB</font>
|-
|rowspan="2"|* MAN NL323F
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Specifications|(Batch 1)]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Tower Transit|SMB3001M – SMB3034T]]
!rowspan="2"|{{WAB}}
|-
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Specifications|(Batch 2)]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Tower Transit|SMB3035R – SMB3051T, SMB3053M – SMB3074C & SMB3084Z]]
|}
Legend
# * Production batch is from SMRT.
--[[User:Johnlyh77|Johnlyh77]] ([[User talk:Johnlyh77|talk]]) 12:25, 6 August 2016 (SGT)
==Reply to the suggestion==
===Single-deckers===
{| class="toccolours" border="1" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-bgcolor=#009548
!<font style="color:white;">Bus model</font>
!colspan="2"|<font style="color:white;">Registration no.</font>
!<font style="color:white;">WAB</font>
|-
|rowspan="2"|* MAN NL323F
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Specifications|Batch 1]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 1)#Tower Transit|SMB3001M – SMB3034T]]
!rowspan="2"|{{WAB}}
|-
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Specifications|Batch 2]]
|[[MAN NL323F (Batch 2)#Tower Transit|SMB3035R – SMB3051T, SMB3053M – SMB3074C & SMB3084Z]]
|}
This one is much better. It's best not to put the (SMRT) part, because either way it confuses others.<br>
--[[User:Apex-LW&#39;21|Apex-LW&#39;21]] ([[User talk:Apex-LW&#39;21|talk]]) 20:45, 6 August 2016 (SGT)
:Pardon me, but I don't think it's a good idea to indicate the bus model's operator as BCM has made it in such a way that there is no such thing as "SMRT MAN NL323F (Batch 2)" anymore since all bus assets belong to LTA.
: --[[User:SBS3602U|SBS3602U]] ([[User talk:SBS3602U|talk]]) 20:56, 6 August 2016 (SGT)
In fact 'MAN NL323F (Batch 2)' is appropriate, since all buses are now under the LTA's assets.
--[[User:Apex-LW&#39;21|Apex-LW&#39;21]] ([[User talk:Apex-LW&#39;21|talk]]) 20:57, 6 August 2016 (SGT)
:Can i use same similar display on SMRT Deployment to rectify at especially '''Mercedes-Benz O530 Citraro'''. As it look Batch 3 is from SMRT itself.
===Single-deckers===
{| class="toccolours" border="1" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-bgcolor=#E3031E
!<font style="color:white;">Bus model</font>
!colspan="2"|<font style="color:white;">Registration no.</font>
!<font style="color:white;">WAB</font>
|-
|rowspan="3"|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro]]
|Demonstrator
|SMB136C
!rowspan="7"|{{WAB}}
|-
|Batch 1
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro#Batch 1 (SMB139U – SMB148T)|SMB139U – SMB148T]]
|-
|Batch 2
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro#Batch 2 (SMB149R – SMB188C)|SMB149R – SMB188C]]
|-
|* Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 3)|Batch 3]]
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 3)#SG1691L – SG1699R|SG1691L – SG1699R]]
|}
Legend
# * Production batch is from SBS Transit.
As SBS3602U reject my post.
--[[User:Johnlyh77|Johnlyh77]] ([[User talk:Johnlyh77|talk]]) 17:31, 7 August 2016 (SGT)
:I second user SBS3602U to not to include any indication for it. Furthermore, it was not purchased under any operators for those fleet. In fact, it was purchased by operator but LTA brought all of it from the operator directly. Therefore, I felt that the legend is redundant.
:Secondly I would like to feedback, to make it neater, it is possible for those fleet under the same model but different operators should have their deployment tables merged, with additional columns denote the operator details like [[Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 4) By Registration]] for easier references rather than a whole chunk of long "section names". (Inclusive of sorting)
:Lastly, I would like to point out that the pages under [[Tower Transit Bus Deployments by Service]] was pretty redundant as none of it had perms buses plying on it or it was yet to determined. If the former is the case, I would suggest it to be deleted, or up to 3 pages to merged all of it with only the quantity of bus deployed and the type of it (Single Decker and Double Decker).
:Thank & Regards
: --[[User:Supernutorcrazy|Supernutorcrazy]] ([[User talk:Supernutorcrazy|talk]]) 19:57 7 August 2016 (SGT)
Having thought about that 'bus model's operator' problem again, user Johnlyh77 might be right on the point that having the different batches of the Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro on [[SMRT Bus Deployments]] might possibly cause confusion and also conflict.
If we were to split the [[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro]] page into to pages by batches, it would conflict with the Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro pages operated largely by SBS Transit – [[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 1)]] & [[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 2)]].
This of course, isn't a problem now as we have the 2 batches of the Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro operated by SMRT merged into one page. But to prevent further confusion, I would recommend we have  an indication of which operator had '''originally purchased that bus model''' (before LTA bought it from them).
We won't have to worry about this conflict '''if''' a bus model is originally bought solely by LTA, as we should understand 'Batch 1' or 'Batch 2' refers to the ones bought by LTA (since only LTA bought it).
Hence, I recommend we indicate the original purchaser of bus models that are bought by 2 different operators that have batch conflicts (in this case, the Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro pages) in both Bus Deployments and bus models pages
{| class="toccolours" border="1" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-bgcolor=#E3031E
!<font style="color:white;">Bus model</font>
!colspan="2"|<font style="color:white;">Registration no.</font>
!<font style="color:white;">Originally purchased by</font>
!<font style="color:white;">WAB</font>
|-
|rowspan="3"|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro]]
|Demonstrator
|SMB136C
|rowspan="3"|SMRT Buses
!rowspan="7"|{{WAB}}
|-
|Batch 1
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro#Batch 1 (SMB139U – SMB148T)|SMB139U – SMB148T]]
|-
|Batch 2
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro#Batch 2 (SMB149R – SMB188C)|SMB149R – SMB188C]]
|-
|Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 3)|Batch 3]]
|[[Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (Batch 3)#SG1691L – SG1699R|SG1691L – SG1699R]]
|Originally purchased by SBS Transit
|}
Regarding the second issue highlited by Supernutorcrazy, I agree that the long sections names are really messy, but I do not think that we should completely get rid of them like in the By Registration page(s). Editing in the [[Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 4) By Registration]] is really tedious as we would have to scroll down reaaalllyy far. At times even, it will cause lag, and sometimes, crash when editing from mobile devices (which most people do).
Regarding the third issue, I believe that we should wait till Tower Transit's bus deployment stablises. But if it doesn't for too long, then we should have the Deployments by Service pages deleted.
--[[User:SBS3602U|SBS3602U]] ([[User talk:SBS3602U|talk]]) 18:55, 8 August 2016 (SGT)

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