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| == Sengkang / Punggol LRT Route Map, Plaform Layout ==
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| No objections for Sengkang / Punggol LRT route to be entirely based on geological layout. Initially thought that the EWL Changi branch can also be my point of reference, but geological layout is more logical. For the subsequent LRT stations do we just only include the stations that are within the direction of travel within the loop + opposite loop?
| | == Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades== |
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| Looking at the platform layouts, I believe we have more than enough space to implement the pictograms bah. Nothing comes to mind that any of the elevators/escalators, faregates, Passenger Service Centre would clash together in one layout. Ticketing machines should be easy to find unless the machines that only accept cash are hard to find within a station, so I don't think that would be a priority.
| | I think in the long run, it is still best to display the entire line as the degree of disruption may vary nonetheless. |
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| I have two different takes on exit layouts. One is within the station concourse, and the other, the Locality maps that we are all familiar with. I personally feel that it is more important to indicate the exit locations within the concourse. As for Locality maps, would rather think of putting it on the Alternative Travel Methods pages of certain stations. Can disregard if the locality maps are very detailed in indicating bus stops eg. Maxwell, otherwise, maps that date back to the early 2010s eg. Chinatown, Boon Lay or lacking in detail really need some updated exit map guidance so that we can convey to them where the bus stops are.
| | As for an entire line breakdown, sections with parallel bus services make dispersal and waiting time less complicated. |
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| ====Update (8th Nov)====
| | However, it is rather strange that going between South & North, between East & West it's faster and easier to get alternatives due to the availability of TEL and NSL respectively (I am not sure how many FBBs Pasir Ris to Boon Lay one has to go for a whole line breakdown), while it's much harder and haywire finding alternatives for origin/destinations within the same area in the West and North sections. |
| I did some tidying up of the notes at Bendemeer, Promenade and the future Khatib (with updated TEL transfer) pages. Apologies that I read wrongly few days ago, I realised you said that the average MRT waiting time is 5 mins. Since I can agree on this point, I have put it as a 3rd pointer for all 3 pages. As for miscellaneous pointers except for road closures, they have been tucked into the respective destination stations. See if this arrangement is neater for the eye.
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| Side note I do disagree with the bus part though, though feeder service waiting times are guaranteed to be less than 10 minutes, a handful of trunk services might exceed 10 mins of waiting time eg. 5, 14, 39, 58, 141, 169, 855 etc., in which some might offer just single deckers. Exceptions include 63, 65, 67, 190 where buses keep spamming. Considering the demographics of the towns where the stations are located at, some crowds won't disperse that easily within 20 mins if options were to include low frequency trunk services. That's why in the case of Khatib I made a special notice at the CBD destinations that if one cannot get onto 855 or 860 on time, CDS is last resort.
| | For eg. due to the changes within Canberra town, the route to the next station Sembawang is only faster by FBB than by 117/M. Another example would be how travelling West from Tiong Bahru is only available via 33 and 122 which barely touches the next few stations westward. |
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| Others like Chinese Garden or Maxwell, where conditions are still ok, I do as per normal. Also, thank you very much for the 3/88/89/109 idea, which made much more sense!
| | I suggest that we can add footnotes for the above aforementioned stations that FBB is faster. |
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| ===Re: Walking distance between two nearby stations===
| | Would also like to request to delete the older revisions of File:W2T CityHall-Esplanade.png and File:JurongEast_LocalDirectory as I managed to figure out on editing and resolution sizing, thanks! |
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| Yes, I had also thought about walking between two stations before. Same had applied to walking from Marina Bay to Bayfront. However, my main concern is getting people to have a familiar sense of direction, especially those with poor navigation skills. Coincidentally, I had one real life experience where I once had tried to explain to an elderly person how to walk from CPF Maxwell to Outram Park where SGH is at, and it was extremely frustrating that I eventually showed the way under my guidance. That has been one tricky part, you know HAHAHAHAHA. As you know, Maxwell is one of those places with poor bus connections, not even one to Outram, so it has been something I had tried to figure out. I would consider it lucky that Service 80 was amended to detour around Cantonment in Sengkang direction, at least something to connect to Maxwell with a direct transfer!
| | ===Wiki plans=== |
| | On a side note, I welcome the changes to add tourism elements to the wiki. Prior to that I also had listed down getting pictures for public amenities in the Planning Areas page, when I have the free time, I will revamp again. |
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| Nonetheless if we want to include walking, I think we can just elaborate with road names people are familiar with, since Maxwell MRT Exit 3 is right at the entrance of Kreta Ayer Rd leading to New Bridge Rd.
| | == Reply: Fleet Size of 912 == |
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| Despite a lot of work to catch up, I made an experimental attempt to indicate walking directions for Maxwell and the new Marina Bay page. See if it works well.
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| ===Adding travelling time/Choa Chu Kang===
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| I have partially completed a study on the frequency of various bus services and waiting times at certain bus stops.
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| Some findings via the API arrivals show that when x=4, waiting time for bus services is shorter at 5 - 10 min range. If x=3, waiting time is as per normal at 10 - 15 min range, in sync with your point of 15 minutes maximum waiting time. So I came to a conclusion that:
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| *I concede that a PIE Stevens - BKE Woodlands travel time may not be as good as I think.
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| *A cluster of 20+ services in a CBD bus stop may not necessarily mean 20 min maximum travel, but 10 min maximum travel due to shorter waiting times of 5 mins.
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| *A few bus services have shorter waiting times than normal trunk/feeder services. Most schedules and frequencies remain unchanged during school days and holidays. I have come up with the following.
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| '''Trunk (5 - 10 mins)''': 36, 168, 190, 975
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| '''Feeder (3 - 7 mins)''': 807
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| 857/858 will continue to be studied in real life due to an inconsistency of missing buses in API arrival timings.
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| *I will make a list of bus stops with x>=4 bus services on my own page and list out the waiting times accordingly.
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| I have done samples for Choa Chu Kang and Thanggam, awaiting your approval and comments before our mass implementation of travel times.
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| ===Completion===
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| Good morning admin.
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| All MRT and LRT alternative travel method pages have been complete. We can commence upgrading the bus stop templates, exit templates, MRT platform layout templates for the rest of the pages. Minor changes, travel times for the alternative travel methods will also be progressively implemented.
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| | I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day. |
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| == Regards about autoblock == | | == Concourse and exit layout WIP == |
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| | Bedok draft has been sketched from Photoshop, and I am on my way to collect more icons, and will make a visit to Admiralty probably next week to trial a similar layout. |
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| I just clarify that while editing the relevant pages, I got autoblocked by 7343Bus. So I just have to wait for the autoblock lapses right? Just clarifying because I never complete the relevant pages that I just need to do. In case you need autoblock ID, the number is #21221.
| | Current elevator dimension is 160x160 on a side note. |
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| Regards | | As discussed before, I agree that there is indeed a need for a file sharing system, especially for icons. Thanks and Regards |
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Rail Wiki Expansion
Hi Supernutorcrazy,
Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.
Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades
Hi,
I think in the long run, it is still best to display the entire line as the degree of disruption may vary nonetheless.
As for an entire line breakdown, sections with parallel bus services make dispersal and waiting time less complicated.
However, it is rather strange that going between South & North, between East & West it's faster and easier to get alternatives due to the availability of TEL and NSL respectively (I am not sure how many FBBs Pasir Ris to Boon Lay one has to go for a whole line breakdown), while it's much harder and haywire finding alternatives for origin/destinations within the same area in the West and North sections.
For eg. due to the changes within Canberra town, the route to the next station Sembawang is only faster by FBB than by 117/M. Another example would be how travelling West from Tiong Bahru is only available via 33 and 122 which barely touches the next few stations westward.
I suggest that we can add footnotes for the above aforementioned stations that FBB is faster.
Would also like to request to delete the older revisions of File:W2T CityHall-Esplanade.png and File:JurongEast_LocalDirectory as I managed to figure out on editing and resolution sizing, thanks!
Wiki plans
On a side note, I welcome the changes to add tourism elements to the wiki. Prior to that I also had listed down getting pictures for public amenities in the Planning Areas page, when I have the free time, I will revamp again.
Reply: Fleet Size of 912
Hi.
I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.
Concourse and exit layout WIP
Bedok draft has been sketched from Photoshop, and I am on my way to collect more icons, and will make a visit to Admiralty probably next week to trial a similar layout.
Current elevator dimension is 160x160 on a side note.
As discussed before, I agree that there is indeed a need for a file sharing system, especially for icons. Thanks and Regards