About Service 961, TIB1051D has explained where "481C is still perm 961-10 as classed under driver duty roster. Respective split shift buses and crossovers pending confirmation." So why you undo it even though he justified his edit and you didn't placed any reasons on edit summary?
Two regarding Service 985, from SGF user SMB42P, "This i cant really confirm. It (SMB129Z) seem to be always on 143G slot (ap10) whenever i see it. while 143G seem to be missing." So with reference to that, how come SMB129Z perms Service 985? Which, where and what sources did you get from?
Clarifications - SV 961
Hi, just to provide some clarifications about the current deployments of this service.
I don't see a point of arguing over deployments. For there is always a clear line of difference between what is planned to be done (rostered / scheduled permanent buses), versus the actual situation (actual deployment of buses). These 2 are controlled by two different parties, one side being the scheduler, and the other being the starter of the depot or ONP venue.
I have been aware of SMB1343P's consistency on SV 961, I'm seeing it regularly. However, what goes inside the scheduled list in the roster is TIB481C, which as of today, is still valid.
I have my reason for editing SMB1343P out of the list, and TIB481C back into the list. Unless it can be verified on paper that SMB1343P is indeed in SV 961, through roster, through waybill or whatever means which is in black and white, otherwise it will not hold valid.
Please feel free to pose me questions onboard SgForums (ID: TIB1051D) or onboard Facebook (Christopher Thian). Thank you!
You may or may not know/noticed there is sgWiki:Guidebook to follow for all users since its establishment in June 2014. Plus for SBS2693M, you forgot to change the buses quantity under Other informations. Plus keep in mind in the future. SBS3107H (talk) 23:29, 11 August 2014 (SGT)
Confirmation of buses for Mandai services
883 does not have full day SDs, full DD fleet on off peak hours, so for SMB353S it is weird to have been given AP shift, Also SG5986K and SG6006H have not operated on 883 for the past 3 months.
Could you also check if any Citaros perm 859 as 2 to 3 have been observed to operate daily, replacing permanent hybrid slots, as well has confirm the 859AP12/13/14 [859A] and 859AP15/16/17 [859B] weekend deployments?
1) there has been sightings of 883 sds on late night weekday off peak hours, would advice to kiv slot if possible. Acc to roster 883 is not 100% dd fleet on weekdays 2) 5986 6006 were in 883 roster. Prob park wlbp side these days, would check the dd fleet again 3) 859 citaros appear on random basis when b5lh go on maintenance/trg. No fixed slot despite being an everyday sight
- There's two SDs rostered to 883 on weekdays. One under PM shift, the other on S1 shift. Most of the 859 citaro deployments are also break down replacements.
Noted. I had changes protection of the mention page to section-based protection from the trial to reduce the impact of full-page locked to editors who exercise good editing habits.
29 February 2020
I've reviewed your response to my queries and have some queries regarding the following subject on Service 854.
1) Under what circumstances does a spare bus constitute into a permanent bus?
2) Is Sgwiki based on present findings or rostering?
While I am aware that SMRT AMDEP abuses the usage of interlining, there are certain buses that appear on certain routes at specific times. Here's a following example :
SMB3609K has been making appearances since Feb 2020 till present. However, you claimed that SG5740C - SG5744S are still under the AMDEP rostering.
My primary concern would be on what circumstances does a certain bus becomes permanent under a specific service? This is to prevent any future reckless edits because the definition of "permanent bus" is very subjective. And I have reasons to believe that it is safe to conclude that SMB3609K is permanently on 854 as of today.
While I understand that the admins do not tolerate vandalism, I hope that a clear definition will suffice so that I can eliminate the cameos in my spottings daily and not cause any unwanted trouble.
Thank you for your attention. If you need any clarifications, please kindly leave a note on my page and I'll respond to you as soon as possible.
- Simon Lim
"The desire for success is part of our nature. And many of us are driven to reach greater and greater heights, which can lead to personal success and societal progress."
With regards to the issue of Warning Point of False Information, I had issued it based on the following points: Knowing that the actual deployment by starters differ from the roaster, you edit it as perm in the fleet. For example, you stated that Service 854 has OC500LE perm in roaster but reality is MAN A22 and Citaro, then this means that the OC500LE is a false information to the general public and hence warrant a issue of Warning Point.
Therefore the conclusion is that the deployment should be based on the current observation as far as possible in light of the general public. Furthermore, even if you work in this industry, please take note that a wiki is not a place for expert in the field but for the general public.
Hence the final conclusion is by stating just like GA-Flexi Deployment for SMRT AMDEP is the only way to satisfy both group of users - Expert like you and General Public like SimonLim88. Do take note that the administrator team are trying our best to treat each group of users equally to prevent conflict.
We seek your understanding with such a reply.
Thanks & Regards
P.S, you may come out with another solutions if deemed fit as long as it could satisfy both groups of users equally.