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== User SBS3107H ==
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Hi could you remove SBS3107H as admin? I feel he doesn't deserve the admin role from the way he reverts edit for no rhyme or reason,and editing it back himself, before he starts blocking users
==Leave your message below==


== User SBS3107H ==
===Rail Wiki Expansion===


to add on the above feedback regarding SBS3107H, i have actually make the same feedback earlier to APEX-LW21 last week. many incorrect edit by this user and also, recently he undo CORRECT edit for new registration for B5LH page and lock the page and reedit himself with the same information. why? is that B5lH section reserve entirely for him?
Hi Supernutorcrazy,
 
EDIT: ADD ON 20/3, just discover that he is doing the same for MAN A95/MAN A22 BATCH 4 PAGE. other person edits new registration (under Go-ahead) and he undo all the edit of these registrations? and he edit it back himself? so being a moderator is allowed to do this?
 
rgds
lemon1974
 
== User Bus33333 & Tangabriel ==
 
Hi, both of them have been doing disruptive editing to "quarrel" and both of them used a mod notice ok each other's userpage. Could you look into this? Thank you.
 
 
== AMDEP Rostering ==
 
There has been alot of conflicts of what was reflected in AMDEP's rostering v.s. what is deployed by the starter each day. The way 167 roster put all MAN buses but reality deploys so many more OCs, 980 full fleet OC + 1 Citaro in roster but in reality alot of MAN buses + minority OCs, 854 put OC500LE SD perms but in reality MAN A22/Citaro perms.
 
However it is also impossible to tell readers that AMDEP has many spare buses (like telling people AMDEP has 100-150+ spare buses in the past?!?!?!) because AMDEP practices rotational/random deployments unlike other depots out in KJ/WL/SBST depots. All my edits have followed based on the rostering, so by implementing that warning point it shows your admin team obviously doesn't know my current jobscope & industry I'm working in. Besides, your service pages has many outdated rostered duties both weekdays & especially wekeends, which some services could have received various timetable updates.
 
Oh you can also tell SimonLim88 if spotting the fleet is the way to deduce perms every single time, den I also wish how I'm able to figure out the actual deployed perms through how AMDEP deploys their buses.
 
It is also worth letting ya know 1709 1710 1711 1733 are reflected as 882, 981 perms in roster, which obviously I don't dare to edit knowing AMDEP deploys them on 171 way more frequently.
 
The question now is whether your team want to tell people what the roster reflects each buses are, or you want tell them how each buses are observed as which perm. After all, there should also be ways to explain how do the adverts from each buses come about & a rough gauge which service.
 
Thanks and no thanks to the warning point. I will defintiely appeal against this warning point and hope this can talk out to your team why I should not deserve that warning point. However if your team insists then I'll step out from all other accurate edits since more contribution = more warning point/editing ban. Thanks
 
~ Arthurjie
 
===Add on===
Hi. Apologies for the late response.
 
I feel that it would be appropriate to indicate these AMDEP buses similar to GA flexi-deployments. I wanted to implement this since the early days of this practice by AMDEP but I have been suggested to keep them as spare buses to keep them consistent with the other two depots KJDEP & WLDEP. This also caused AMDEP to accumulate many spare buses over the 3+ years.
 
I understand that you have been editing according to AMDEP's roster, which I have no objections regarding this as you have been trying to clear out the excess number of spare buses under AMDEP. Likewise, it could have better if the deployments are based on observations but minority of us have the spare time to spot the entire fleet of every single AMDEP services under a daily basis.
 
I will remove your warning point as it is clearly not 'false information' by tallying the scheduled deployments with the actual deployments.
 
Please do update me your thoughts regarding this matter.
 
Thanks.
 
== SMRT AMDEP Services ==
 
22 March 2020
 
Good evening Sir,
 
This matter is in regards to the recent conflicts that happened between me and Arthurjie about Mandai deployments. While I believe the admins should have made it clear on whether Mandai services rely on roster or actual deployments, I do personally feel that it was unfair to give Arthurjie a warning point because he was merely showing another side of the truth, which is the "roster". You can deem the roster as unreliable, but Arthurjie was not wrong to actually show what was in the roster. In fact, if there is anyone to blame, blame it on SMRT for having a roster but not following it. (Basically having a timetable in secondary school but lessons are on a random basis, which makes it completely unreliable.)
 
To prevent any future conflicts, I will go over a handful of solutions that I have thought of to help bring this matter to a close, so that both parties can reach a win win situation. Please do note that this list is non-exhaustive and can be added to suit better needs.


'''1) Making a separate page for Mandai Services only, allocating the actual roster deployments apart from the deployments in reality.'''
Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?<br>
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit<br>
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.


'''2) Relocate all Mandai allocated buses back to "AMDEP SP"'''
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


'''3) Open a vote to all sgwiki admins / users to decide if Mandai deployments should be based on roster vs reality ( Like an election basically. )'''


'''4) Have a discussion before deeming the bus as a permanent. (For example, SG5879L has been performing on 965 regularly but in the roster it is actually on 857. Keep the bus on hold until SG5879L has been observed appearing a certain amount of times on 965 and then verifying that it no longer appears on 857 on the following day.)'''
==Station layout==


'''5) Open another block to differentiate reality vs roster instead of creating a new page. A new notation can also be introduced to indicate a roster to reality basis. (Eg . SG5879L AMDEP 857///965) Or any other notations deemed fit.'''
Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.


I do know that I have no right to make decisions but I feel that point 1 would cater to both the general public as well as the administrative roles. This is because in any case, if the general public is curious on what buses are actually shown on the roster, there is actually a reference for them to look into it and compare it with the actual deployments. While at this, may I also suggest regrouping the SMRT services into AMDEP / WLDEP / KJDEP. This is for easier reference for the public light and also much more easier for the general public to see the actual vs roster. I do hope you will consider my suggestions helpful and do feel free to add a topic into my discussion if you seek any clarifications.
Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.  


Thank you for your patience, understanding and time into reading this.
How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?


Regards,
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==


SimonLim88
===TEL4 - CCL2===
Hi, some heads up,


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I have completed almost all TEL alternative travel methods. If I have the free time, I will update Outram, Maxwell and Marina Bay travel timings (have inserted TEL4 for the aforementioned 3 stations).


Rules for my feedback to stop irritate me.
In the meantime, some new travel methods have been worked out for CCL2. They are:


*Please kindly wait for up to 7 days unless stated otherwise for my reply to your feedback. No reply will be given if your feedback does not require reply or I could not answer to your feedback.
Stadium->TE23 Tanjong Rhu + Walking <br>
*Please do not ask for general question like '''How to''' etc.
Mountbatten->TE23 Tanjong Rhu + 11/158 <br>
*Please do not ask for permission to do something.
Dakota->TE24 Katong Park + 30 (unidirectional from TEL4**)
*Please refrain from requesting to retrieved deleted article as excessive history will be cleared.
*When requesting me to edit locked pages, please give either
**Affected sections code
**Advertisement in full
**Affected parts to change in details.
**Avoid statement like '''same as other vehicle'''
*Please kindly indicate Autoblock ID if you have been affected from it.


== Suspension/Amendment of Bus Services due to Movement Control Order in Malaysia ==
===TEL4 - EWL===
I have not started work on the EWL end but here are the updated travel methods below


Hi Supernutorcrazy,
Eunos->TE26 Marine Parade + 55/966 (unidirectional from TEL4**) <br>
Kembangan->TE27 Marine Terrace + 135 <br>
Bedok->TE28 Siglap + 31/196/197 <br>
Tanah Merah->TE29 Bayshore + 14/48 <br>


Sorry to trouble you.
I look forward to the new travel times with TEL4 soon!


I have 2 queries that I would like to seek clarification.
Thanks and Regards


Firstly, isn't it too early to assume that the suspension/amendment of cross border service will be extended accordingly with the extension of the MCO? Even though it is highly likely that it will be extended accordingly, I feel that it is too early to assume such information as the press release from the bus operators about the further extension of the suspension/amendment of these cross border services has not been released on their communication channels yet.
== Reply: Fleet Size of 912 ==
Hi.


Secondly, I would like to show you 2 formats for the arrangement of information.
I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.


'''Diagram 1:'''
== Re "858 DD" ==
==Service 170X {{WAB}}==
{| class="toccolours bushist" border="1" cellpadding="3"
|-class="BUS"
!Operator
!Year
!Date
!Service changes
|-
!rowspan="2"|{{SBS Transit}}<br>(Current)
|rowspan="2"|2020
|18 March
|Service temporarily suspended due to Movement Control Order in Malaysia until 14 April 2020.
|-
|15 April
|To resume normal operations.
|}


'''Diagram 2:'''
I thank you for the message. Just to put it on record, I have no issues with the revert, which I find completely justified (as you've laid out on the false impression part), and I would've removed/changed the message as well. However, the message that Alphabetlorefan1 said "bus 858 DDs are cameo" was an erroneous one, as they are not cameos, which you've also recognized that there are downroute slots. Hence I felt there was a need to correct the user so as to prevent any misunderstandings in the future.


==Service 170X {{WAB}}==
AirFan19
{| class="toccolours bushist" border="1" cellpadding="3"
|-class="BUS"
!Operator
!Year
!Date
!Service changes
|-
!rowspan="3"|{{SBS Transit}}<br>(Current)
|rowspan="3"|2020
|18 March
|Service temporarily suspended due to Movement Control Order in Malaysia until 31 March 2020.
|-
|25 March
|Temporary suspension of service due to Movement Control Order in Malaysia extended until 14 April 2020.
|-
|15 April
|To resume normal operations.
|}


In this case, 25 March 2020 is the date of publish when the bus service suspension/amendment will be extended.
== Editing of TEL4 images ==


I would like to seek your opinion on which is the preferred format to follow.
Hi Supernutorcrazy, I just added images for new TEL4 stations to put in the new stations page, but when I want to add the images in TEL page, turns out a PNG file must be added. Is there any other way to add JPG images or what? Let me know


Much appreciated. Thank you.
Thanks,


Themystery
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 24 June 2024, 17:36

Revision as of 17:36, 24 June 2024

Rules for my feedback to stop irritate me.

  • Please kindly wait for up to 7 days unless stated otherwise for my reply to your feedback. No reply will be given if your feedback does not require reply or I could not answer to your feedback.
  • Please do not ask for general question like How to etc.
  • Please do not ask for permission to do something.
  • Please refrain from requesting to retrieved deleted article as excessive history will be cleared.
  • When requesting me to edit locked pages, please give either
    • Affected sections code
    • Advertisement in full
    • Affected parts to change in details.
    • Avoid statement like same as other vehicle
  • Please kindly indicate Autoblock ID if you have been affected from it.
  • I will not entertain any request under BCM transition.

Leave your message below

Rail Wiki Expansion

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Station layout

Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.

Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.

How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?

Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades

TEL4 - CCL2

Hi, some heads up,

I have completed almost all TEL alternative travel methods. If I have the free time, I will update Outram, Maxwell and Marina Bay travel timings (have inserted TEL4 for the aforementioned 3 stations).

In the meantime, some new travel methods have been worked out for CCL2. They are:

Stadium->TE23 Tanjong Rhu + Walking
Mountbatten->TE23 Tanjong Rhu + 11/158
Dakota->TE24 Katong Park + 30 (unidirectional from TEL4**)

TEL4 - EWL

I have not started work on the EWL end but here are the updated travel methods below

Eunos->TE26 Marine Parade + 55/966 (unidirectional from TEL4**)
Kembangan->TE27 Marine Terrace + 135
Bedok->TE28 Siglap + 31/196/197
Tanah Merah->TE29 Bayshore + 14/48

I look forward to the new travel times with TEL4 soon!

Thanks and Regards

Reply: Fleet Size of 912

Hi.

I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.

Re "858 DD"

I thank you for the message. Just to put it on record, I have no issues with the revert, which I find completely justified (as you've laid out on the false impression part), and I would've removed/changed the message as well. However, the message that Alphabetlorefan1 said "bus 858 DDs are cameo" was an erroneous one, as they are not cameos, which you've also recognized that there are downroute slots. Hence I felt there was a need to correct the user so as to prevent any misunderstandings in the future.

AirFan19

Editing of TEL4 images

Hi Supernutorcrazy, I just added images for new TEL4 stations to put in the new stations page, but when I want to add the images in TEL page, turns out a PNG file must be added. Is there any other way to add JPG images or what? Let me know

Thanks,

Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 24 June 2024, 17:36

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