Please edit properly for the change in deployment by (1) updating the Bus Deployments by Model for '''both current and former''' deployments, (2) respective service page for both '''current and former''' pages.
If you are updating because you spotted the bus and not due to a change in deployment, please use the respective '''bus spotting page''' instead.
If you believe that the bus is just a cameo or possible deployment change, with no concrete evidence, please use the respective '''bus spotting page''' instead.
To differentiate between a permanent and a cameo, please observe the deployment of the bus over a period of 1 week (minimum), as bus may be redeployed away from it perm service due to maintenance schedule.
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I am certain you go out during Off-Peak hours which explains why you didn’t see 991 SDs. There are 2 perm duties of 991 which is done by SDs, of which 1 of them perform crossover to Bus Service 975A in the evening. They depart CKI to Bukit Batok at 0800++ hours stretch of timing. 991 have never receive any downgrades/upgrades and neither did their schedule change.
I am certain you go out during Off-Peak hours which explains why you didn’t see 991 SDs. There are 2 perm duties of 991 which is done by SDs, of which 1 of them perform crossover to Bus Service 975A in the evening. They depart CKI to Bukit Batok at 0800++ hours stretch of timing. 991 have never receive any downgrades/upgrades and neither did their schedule change.
== Re ==
Hi,
You may refer to this two pages for more information.
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 7 March 2025, 19:21
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 7 March 2025, 19:21
== Regarding New Bus Service Pages ==
== Photo upload ==
Are the photos that you have recently uploaded yours? If not, I suggest you credit the original owner with a link instead of stealing the picture by cropping out the watermark.
Hi,
== Images of buses ==
I agree with what Hearmeout said about you uploading photos. Its either you took a photo of yourself or you take it from other website and upload it here without credit. Not that, you also tried to crop out images to hide the watermarks, especially the ones from Singapore Buses Facebook account, in which people have already credited the image you uploaded. I suggest you take photos of buses like how Alphabetlorefan, TTEDC and Wekelwrady did. I will leave CastJared to send several images of buses taken from camera by 3 users mentioned and hope you will understand. Take note
You might want to backtrack the information displayed on the 184 and 302 deployment lists. How was it possible for 184 and 302 bendies to be interchangeable back then when they were parking at 2 different places?
61, 172, 983 & 991 DDs were well known to appear around these services during their Bulim days. If you insist, why not you just indicate all these deployment as KJDEP 61/172/983/991, KJDEP 176/190, and KJDEP 180/188/972/972M/979?
==Bus Deployment (KJDEP services)==
Hi
You might want to refer to [[Talk:Bus Deployments by Service]] for more information on how you can help completely. As work is extremely hectic, we need '''fully complete pages''' in order to make bus service pages as much presentable as possible. Your full cooperation is appreciated.
Thank you for regularly spotting KJDEP deployment and update sgWiki. I notice a possible edit warring that may appear due to different opinion.
Thanks and Regards
Let me share my few cents and see how you can come into concensious before the edit warring appears.
== New Bus Service Pages ==
You had mention that the following groups are interchangeable, meaning it can appear on any services within the group:
* 61, 172, 983, 991
* 176, 190
* 180, 188, 972/M, and 979
Take note of how you can start a bus service page. Let me show you how. This was taken from 197 as an example:
The term interchangeable means that such bus are duty-roastered on these group of service, most likely weekly basis, meaning this week bus A appear perm on 61, next week bus A then perm 172 and so on and so forth.
Based on your daily description, you mention that it was randomly appearing on those group and not other service which indicate that it was not a spare bus.
{{Infobox
|title=Service 197
|info=
{{Infohead|Route Information}}
{{Infoline|Route|[[Bedok Bus Interchange|Bedok Interchange]] ↔ [[Jurong East Bus Interchange|Jurong East Interchange]]}}
{{Infoline|Route Length|31.4 km <small>(towards Jurong East)</small><br>31.7 km <small>(towards Bedok)</small>}}
{{Infoline|Travelling Time|130 mins <small>(2 h 10 mins)</small>}}
{{Infoline|Operator|{{SBST}}<br>([[Clementi Bus Package]])}}
}}
{{SBST/1| Bus Service 197}} serves major areas along Bedok, Marine Parade, Guillemard, Bugis, Chinatown, Bukit Merah and Jurong East. It has an express sector along AYE.
I do notice that TTS deployment are somewhat of what you describe, for example, TTS 963, 965, 969 belongs to the same group. 169, 856 belongs to the other group, meaning buses that appear on 169 may appear on 856 randomly, bus seldom on other services.
==Service Information==
As such, do you think is possible where SMRT KJ practice FD like AMDEP in the past, with service grouping like I explain?
* '''1 Service 197 bus''' will perform one (1) down-route trip as Service 197 from Neil Road (Bus Stop 05259 - Opp Maxwell Stn Exit 3) towards Jurong East Interchange before Daily AM Peak, departing at 0525 hours.
* '''2 Service 197 buses''' will perform one (1) down-route trip as Service 197 from Neil Road (Bus Stop 05259 - Opp Maxwell Stn Exit 3) towards Jurong East Interchange during Weekdays PM Peak, departing at 1748 hours & 1831 hours.
* '''3 Service 197 buses''' will perform one (1) down-route trip as Service 197 from Geylang Road (Bus Stop 80039 - Opp Lor 1 Geylang Ter) towards Jurong East Interchange before Weekends & Public Holidays AM Peak.
** Sundays & Public Holidays: Departing at 0525 hours, 0538 hours & 0550 hours.
* '''7 Service 197 buses''' will perform one (1) down-route trip as Service 197 from Geylang Road (Bus Stop 80039 - Opp Lor 1 Geylang Ter) towards Jurong East Interchange before & during Weekdays AM Peak, departing between 0525 hours & 0718 hours.
* '''SBS7652Z (Service 45)''' will operate on Service 197 during Weekends & Public Holidays.
* '''Weekdays:''' Ulu Pandan 13A-14P / 3S / 1T; Bedok North 4A-4P / 1E / 4S (27 buses)
* '''Weekdays Sch Hols:''' Ulu Pandan 10A-12P / 4S / 1T; Bedok North 5A-5P / 4S (26 buses)
* '''Saturdays:''' Ulu Pandan 14A-15P; Bedok North 8A-7P / 1T (24 buses)
* '''Sundays & Public Holidays:''' Ulu Pandan 16A-14P / 1T; Bedok North 7A-5P / 1T (25 buses)
* '''Special Weekdays:''' Ulu Pandan 12A-12P / 4S; Bedok North 8A-7P / 1E (25 buses)
|}
==Historical Information==
I do highly also believed that SMRT WLDEP also do pratice such grouping deployment.
{{Infoline|Route|[[Pasir Ris Bus Interchange|Pasir Ris Interchange]] ↔ [[Saint Michael's Bus Terminal|Saint Michael’s Terminal]]}}
{{Infoline|Route Length|27.4 km <small>(towards Saint Michael’s)</small><br>25.0 km <small>(towards Pasir Ris)</small>}}
{{Infoline|Travelling Time|130 mins <small>(2 h 10 mins)</small>}}
{{Infoline|Operator|{{SBST}}<br>([[Bishan – Toa Payoh Bus Package]])}}
}}
{{SBST/1| Bus Service 21}} is an inter-town service linking the residential estates of [[Pasir Ris]], [[Tampines]], [[Bedok]], [[Geylang]], [[Kallang]], and [[Novena|Balestier (Novena subzone)]].
== Counting ==
On sundays and public holidays, Short-Trip 21A supplements the high demand from Geylang to Kitchener Road.
Go down and count 307 how many bus before you tell me don't talk cock thanks
As previously mentioned by Supernutorcrazy, he will be transferring the updated layout to his own wiki, while sgWiki will revert to the original layout.
!Notes
|-
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* 1 extra HGDEP DD.
* '''Several random BNDEP DDs''' will operate on Service 21 on Weekends & Public Holidays.
* '''Several random HGDEP DDs''' will operate on Service 21 on Sundays & Public Holidays.
* Full DD fleet for BNDEP on Weekends & Public Holidays.
* Majority DD fleet for HGDEP on Sundays & Public Holidays.
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|05:55<br><small>(SG5116E)</small>}} {{Col/1|06:12<br><small>(SBS8179S)</small>}}</div>
|-
!Saturdays
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|05:55<br><small>(SG6233T)</small>}} {{Col/1|06:06<br><small>(SBS3013U)</small>}}</div>
|-
!Sundays & Public Holidays
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|05:55<br><small>(SBS3158K)</small>}}</div>
First Question, Do you or do you not state any comment. If not - simple. I don't ban people for stating in summary. There was an incident where I ban the wrong user and reapply to the correct user (due to comment). Next, removal of last former deployment (due to wrong info is still consider update, because you acknowledge that it is false and your current deployment holds).
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|17:51<br><small>(SBS3186D)</small>}} {{Col/1|18:15}} {{Col/1|18:31}}</div>
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|05:50<br><small>(SG6233T)</small>}} {{Col/1|06:00<br><small>(SG6261L)</small>}} {{Col/1|06:18}} {{Col/1|06:31}}</div>
|<div style='display:grid;grid-auto-columns:max-content;grid-template-columns:auto auto auto auto auto;'>{{Col/1|16:52<br><small>(SBS3186D)</small>}} {{Col/1|17:11<br><small>(DD)</small>}} {{Col/1|17:22<br><small>(DD)</small>}} {{Col/1|17:42<br><small>(DD)</small>}} {{Col/1|17:56}}</div>
|}
</div>
====Direction 1 (Pasir Ris → Saint Michael’s)====
[[User:Supernutorcrazy|Supernutorcrazy]] ([[User talk:Supernutorcrazy|talk]]) 18:50, 15 August 2025 (+08)
* <div style='display:flex;align-items:start'><span style='margin-right:.5em'><sup>1</sup>: </span><span>This service calls at this stop in both directions (towards Pasir Ris and towards Saint Michael’s). Commuters are to check the bus destination before boarding.</span></div>
* <div style='display:flex;align-items:start'><span style='margin-right:.5em'><u>06:00</u>: </span><span>Underlined times indicate that the first bus is a downroute bus rather than one starting from the first stop.</span></div>
* <div style='display:flex;align-items:start'><span style='margin-right:.5em'><sup>1</sup>: </span><span>This service calls at this stop in both directions (towards Pasir Ris and towards Saint Michael’s). Commuters are to check the bus destination before boarding.</span></div>
* <div style='display:flex;align-items:start'><span style='margin-right:.5em'><u>06:00</u>: </span><span>Underlined times indicate that the first bus is a downroute bus rather than one starting from the first stop.</span></div>
</div>
==Historical Information==
The admin deleted the guidebook because it was too strict on users so a new guidebook will be created based on users' feedback.
|rowspan=13|{{SBST}}<br>'''(Current)'''<br>''Known as {{SBS}} prior to 1 November 2001''
|Pasir Ris ↔ Lor 1 Geylang
|'''1992'''
|'''29 November'''
|style='text-align:left'|Introduced between Pasir Ris Int and Lor 1 Geylang Ter under TransitLink Network Integration Exercise Phase 10.
|-
|rowspan=9|Pasir Ris ↔ Saint Michael’s
|'''1993'''
|'''23 May'''
|style='text-align:left'|Integrated with Service 4 and extended to St. Michael’s Ter under TransitLink Network Integration Exercise Phase 13.
|-
|'''1994'''
|{{TBC}}
|style='text-align:left'|Skips the bus stop outside Kallang Stn along Sims Ave.
|-
|'''1999'''
|{{TBC}}
|style='text-align:left'|Serves new pair of bus stops outside and opposite The Clearwater Condo along Bedok Reservoir Rd.
|-
|'''2001'''
|'''18 February'''
|style='text-align:left'|Serves new staggered bus stop outside Novena Stn along Thomson Rd, skipping the bus stop outside Novena Ch.
|-
|'''2002'''
|{{TBC}}
|style='text-align:left'|Serves new pair of bus stops opposite and between Blks 731 and 734 along Bedok Reservoir Rd.
|-
|'''2003'''
|'''21 June'''
|style='text-align:left'|Amended to ply Bendemeer Rd, Jln Besar, Kitchener Rd and Serangoon Rd under {{NEL}} Rationalisation Phase 1.
|-
|rowspan=2|'''2004'''
|'''27 April'''
|style='text-align:left'|Amended to ply Geylang Rd, Kallang Rd and Sims Ave towards St. Michael’s Ter with the temporary conversion of Lor 1 Geylang to one-way traffic.
|-
|'''6 December'''
|style='text-align:left'|Amended to ply the reinstated Lor 1 Geylang towards St. Michael’s Ter, skipping Geylang Rd, Kallang Rd and Sims Ave.
|-
|'''2006'''
|'''26 June'''
|style='text-align:left'|{{DWAB}}
|-
|rowspan=3|{{Bus/D|21|note=Pasir Ris ↔ St. Michael’s}}{{Bus/D|21A|note=Geylang Rd → Kitchener Rd}}
|'''2014'''
|'''25 May'''
|style='text-align:left'|{{Bus/D|21A|note=Introduced from Geylang Rd (Bef Lor 18 Geylang) to Kitchener Rd (Bef Tai Hoe Hotel) on Sundays and Public Holidays. {{LWAB}}}}
|-
|'''2016'''
|'''24 April'''
|style='text-align:left'|Amended to ply Jln Tenteram in both directions.
|-
|'''2022'''
|'''30 October'''
|style='text-align:left'|Temporarily amended to ply Pasir Ris St 11 and Pasir Ris St 12 with the partial closure of Pasir Ris Dr 1 to facilitate the construction of {{CR4| }} station on the {{CRL}}.
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From Hearmeout
Please stop adding nonexistent arrangement thanks
Re: 184 and 302 bendies
From Shinjuku184
Hi from my observation the 184 and 302 bendies are very likely to be interchangeable but I'll continue to keep an eye on them. As for 176 and 190, I have seen A95 E6 B2 and B9TL from 190 running on 176 but that was a while back.
Re: Hi for the 302 bendies, 8024 and 8034 were operating for the past few weeks but they seem to have returned to 184 and replaced by 8032. Random DDs like 6025C (301) has been running on 302 instead of bendies recently.
From TIB1152X 190
Most of the time, bendies seem to be in their respective perm services.
Also, if you realise, 190 and 190A morning Peak seems to have bendy crossover, not sure is from 184 or 302.
Interchangeable for DDs seem to be common between 176 and 190 but not really on 184. I would say 5018C act like a spare bus these days. Didn’t really see the crossover of 190 buses to 184 on Weekdays but other crossover from 190 exist such as 190x302, 190x180, 190x868E and 190x991 etc.
From Alphabetlorefan1
Hi, I dont think 184 and 302 bendies are interchangeable, but hopefully it might be, unless otherwise stated. I will observe it again at a later date. Also, with the 176 and 190 DDs, it is indeed interchangeable, I have seen these perm buses doing the reverse services at some days. Thanks.
I am certain you go out during Off-Peak hours which explains why you didn’t see 991 SDs. There are 2 perm duties of 991 which is done by SDs, of which 1 of them perform crossover to Bus Service 975A in the evening. They depart CKI to Bukit Batok at 0800++ hours stretch of timing. 991 have never receive any downgrades/upgrades and neither did their schedule change.
About SMB244Z
Can you tell me when this permed 300? I have never seen it. If you think its wrong, I hope admin can revert your edit.
Are the photos that you have recently uploaded yours? If not, I suggest you credit the original owner with a link instead of stealing the picture by cropping out the watermark.
Images of buses
I agree with what Hearmeout said about you uploading photos. Its either you took a photo of yourself or you take it from other website and upload it here without credit. Not that, you also tried to crop out images to hide the watermarks, especially the ones from Singapore Buses Facebook account, in which people have already credited the image you uploaded. I suggest you take photos of buses like how Alphabetlorefan, TTEDC and Wekelwrady did. I will leave CastJared to send several images of buses taken from camera by 3 users mentioned and hope you will understand. Take note
You might want to backtrack the information displayed on the 184 and 302 deployment lists. How was it possible for 184 and 302 bendies to be interchangeable back then when they were parking at 2 different places?
61, 172, 983 & 991 DDs were well known to appear around these services during their Bulim days. If you insist, why not you just indicate all these deployment as KJDEP 61/172/983/991, KJDEP 176/190, and KJDEP 180/188/972/972M/979?
Bus Deployment (KJDEP services)
Hi
Thank you for regularly spotting KJDEP deployment and update sgWiki. I notice a possible edit warring that may appear due to different opinion.
Let me share my few cents and see how you can come into concensious before the edit warring appears.
You had mention that the following groups are interchangeable, meaning it can appear on any services within the group:
61, 172, 983, 991
176, 190
180, 188, 972/M, and 979
The term interchangeable means that such bus are duty-roastered on these group of service, most likely weekly basis, meaning this week bus A appear perm on 61, next week bus A then perm 172 and so on and so forth.
Based on your daily description, you mention that it was randomly appearing on those group and not other service which indicate that it was not a spare bus.
I do notice that TTS deployment are somewhat of what you describe, for example, TTS 963, 965, 969 belongs to the same group. 169, 856 belongs to the other group, meaning buses that appear on 169 may appear on 856 randomly, bus seldom on other services.
As such, do you think is possible where SMRT KJ practice FD like AMDEP in the past, with service grouping like I explain?
I do highly also believed that SMRT WLDEP also do pratice such grouping deployment.
Go down and count 307 how many bus before you tell me don't talk cock thanks
244Z: SP > 300 (KIV)
Reply: why revert back to old format?
Hello,
As previously mentioned by Supernutorcrazy, he will be transferring the updated layout to his own wiki, while sgWiki will revert to the original layout.
Thank you.
Re: Ban
Hi,
The old rule applied.
First Question, Do you or do you not state any comment. If not - simple. I don't ban people for stating in summary. There was an incident where I ban the wrong user and reapply to the correct user (due to comment). Next, removal of last former deployment (due to wrong info is still consider update, because you acknowledge that it is false and your current deployment holds).
I hope this clarify your accusation of me not reading summary before banning. (I do read even if without attention to me).