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== User SBS3107H ==
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Hi could you remove SBS3107H as admin? I feel he doesn't deserve the admin role from the way he reverts edit for no rhyme or reason,and editing it back himself, before he starts blocking users
==Leave your message below==


== User SBS3107H ==
===Rail Wiki Expansion===


to add on the above feedback regarding SBS3107H, i have actually make the same feedback earlier to APEX-LW21 last week. many incorrect edit by this user and also, recently he undo CORRECT edit for new registration for B5LH page and lock the page and reedit himself with the same information. why? is that B5lH section reserve entirely for him?
Hi Supernutorcrazy,
 
EDIT: ADD ON 20/3, just discover that he is doing the same for MAN A95/MAN A22 BATCH 4 PAGE. other person edits new registration (under Go-ahead) and he undo all the edit of these registrations? and he edit it back himself? so being a moderator is allowed to do this?
 
rgds
lemon1974
 
== User Bus33333 & Tangabriel ==
 
Hi, both of them have been doing disruptive editing to "quarrel" and both of them used a mod notice ok each other's userpage. Could you look into this? Thank you.
 
 
== AMDEP Rostering ==
 
There has been alot of conflicts of what was reflected in AMDEP's rostering v.s. what is deployed by the starter each day. The way 167 roster put all MAN buses but reality deploys so many more OCs, 980 full fleet OC + 1 Citaro in roster but in reality alot of MAN buses + minority OCs, 854 put OC500LE SD perms but in reality MAN A22/Citaro perms.
 
However it is also impossible to tell readers that AMDEP has many spare buses (like telling people AMDEP has 100-150+ spare buses in the past?!?!?!) because AMDEP practices rotational/random deployments unlike other depots out in KJ/WL/SBST depots. All my edits have followed based on the rostering, so by implementing that warning point it shows your admin team obviously doesn't know my current jobscope & industry I'm working in. Besides, your service pages has many outdated rostered duties both weekdays & especially wekeends, which some services could have received various timetable updates.
 
Oh you can also tell SimonLim88 if spotting the fleet is the way to deduce perms every single time, den I also wish how I'm able to figure out the actual deployed perms through how AMDEP deploys their buses.
 
It is also worth letting ya know 1709 1710 1711 1733 are reflected as 882, 981 perms in roster, which obviously I don't dare to edit knowing AMDEP deploys them on 171 way more frequently.
 
The question now is whether your team want to tell people what the roster reflects each buses are, or you want tell them how each buses are observed as which perm. After all, there should also be ways to explain how do the adverts from each buses come about & a rough gauge which service.
 
Thanks and no thanks to the warning point. I will defintiely appeal against this warning point and hope this can talk out to your team why I should not deserve that warning point. However if your team insists then I'll step out from all other accurate edits since more contribution = more warning point/editing ban. Thanks
 
~ Arthurjie
 
===Add on===
Hi. Apologies for the late response.


I feel that it would be appropriate to indicate these AMDEP buses similar to GA flexi-deployments. I wanted to implement this since the early days of this practice by AMDEP but I have been suggested to keep them as spare buses to keep them consistent with the other two depots KJDEP & WLDEP. This also caused AMDEP to accumulate many spare buses over the 3+ years.  
Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?<br>
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit<br>
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.


I understand that you have been editing according to AMDEP's roster, which I have no objections regarding this as you have been trying to clear out the excess number of spare buses under AMDEP. Likewise, it could have better if the deployments are based on observations but minority of us have the spare time to spot the entire fleet of every single AMDEP services under a daily basis.
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


I will remove your warning point as it is clearly not 'false information' by tallying the scheduled deployments with the actual deployments.


Please do update me your thoughts regarding this matter.
==Station layout==


Thanks.
Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.


== SMRT AMDEP Services ==
Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.


22 March 2020
How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?


Good evening Sir,
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==


This matter is in regards to the recent conflicts that happened between me and Arthurjie about Mandai deployments. While I believe the admins should have made it clear on whether Mandai services rely on roster or actual deployments, I do personally feel that it was unfair to give Arthurjie a warning point because he was merely showing another side of the truth, which is the "roster". You can deem the roster as unreliable, but Arthurjie was not wrong to actually show what was in the roster. In fact, if there is anyone to blame, blame it on SMRT for having a roster but not following it. (Basically having a timetable in secondary school but lessons are on a random basis, which makes it completely unreliable.)
Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.


To prevent any future conflicts, I will go over a handful of solutions that I have thought of to help bring this matter to a close, so that both parties can reach a win win situation. Please do note that this list is non-exhaustive and can be added to suit better needs.
Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box


'''1) Making a separate page for Mandai Services only, allocating the actual roster deployments apart from the deployments in reality.'''
Thanks and Regards


'''2) Relocate all Mandai allocated buses back to "AMDEP SP"'''
==Service information ==
The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.


'''3) Open a vote to all sgwiki admins / users to decide if Mandai deployments should be based on roster vs reality ( Like an election basically. )'''
Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.


'''4) Have a discussion before deeming the bus as a permanent. (For example, SG5879L has been performing on 965 regularly but in the roster it is actually on 857. Keep the bus on hold until SG5879L has been observed appearing a certain amount of times on 965 and then verifying that it no longer appears on 857 on the following day.)'''
Bring back [[Bus Service 222/222A/222B]] and [[Bus Service 282]] will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.


'''5) Open another block to differentiate reality vs roster instead of creating a new page. A new notation can also be introduced to indicate a roster to reality basis. (Eg . SG5879L AMDEP 857///965) Or any other notations deemed fit.'''
Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page
== Bus ads ==


I do know that I have no right to make decisions but I feel that point 1 would cater to both the general public as well as the administrative roles. This is because in any case, if the general public is curious on what buses are actually shown on the roster, there is actually a reference for them to look into it and compare it with the actual deployments. While at this, may I also suggest regrouping the SMRT services into AMDEP / WLDEP / KJDEP. This is for easier reference for the public light and also much more easier for the general public to see the actual vs roster. I do hope you will consider my suggestions helpful and do feel free to add a topic into my discussion if you seek any clarifications.
Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.


Thank you for your patience, understanding and time into reading this.
== Just to bring to your attention, the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] ==


Regards,
Just to bring to your attention that the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.


SimonLim88
== Bus Service Pages (History) ==


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I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.
Rules for my feedback to stop irritate me.
 
*Please kindly wait for up to 7 days unless stated otherwise for my reply to your feedback. No reply will be given if your feedback does not require reply or I could not answer to your feedback.
*Please do not ask for general question like '''How to''' etc.
*Please do not ask for permission to do something.
*Please refrain from requesting to retrieved deleted article as excessive history will be cleared.
*When requesting me to edit locked pages, please give either
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**Advertisement in full
**Affected parts to change in details.
**Avoid statement like '''same as other vehicle'''
*Please kindly indicate Autoblock ID if you have been affected from it.


== Re: Recent Edit ==
== Since ==
Hi.
Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.


* Reverting back of the trial of subpages for deployment service (eg. Clementi Feeders) which allows administrators to lock section of the page to prevent disruptive editing
== Re: Bus Ads ==
: I understand your intention of trialing this, as it is much easier for the admins to lock the sections instead of pages. However, it is quite troublesome for editors (including myself) to edit if someone have the intention to modify the subpages all in one go. Plus, I found out that it is difficult to trace back the edit histories for the respective sections as they are separated accordingly unlike in the past where they are all compiled together.


*Creating Templates (Template:Spec) for bus model information which only a single page can be used. (In violation of SgWiki:Guidbook Chapter 4 Paragraph 8).
Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.
: I am currently creating these templates for the former buses specifications as there are some editors who have been amending the information for several former bus models. It is troublesome for me to edit them by their respective pages (those refurbished ones) as those locked ones are only accessible by the admins. I don't think it's fair for me to constantly transfer the recent edits without their heads up, hence the creation of these templates so as to synchronise the information with the refurbished pages as well as the former specs page. And yes I wasn't aware that I was violating the guidebook rules.


Thanks.
== White/blue UPD sticker ==


== Re: Proposal to Remove Selected Short-Trip Services at the Respective MRT Station Pages ==
Hi,


Hi Supernutorcrazy,
The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.


I have noted your reply with thanks.
Regards,
Kay


Themystery
== Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages ==


== About a block... ==
Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.


Hi Supernutorcrazy,
== Re: reformatting of bus service pages ==


I do not have any intents in mind to question your actions, but I'd like to ask a few questions regarding the block of a friend of mine, [[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]], who was issued a block on 27 December 2019, at 10:30 PM SGT.
Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.


Firstly, they would like to know what let you to the conclusion that they are evading a ban, as they joined the wiki when they first found out about it, and have been trying to contribute to the wiki as effectively as they can.
Regards,
LTA Bus Irrationalisation


Next, they would also like to know why they are unable to appeal against a false block.
== Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that ==


Lastly, they would like to know if an unblock would be made possible as they have not returned to sgWiki ever since the issued block.
Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages


The last time I checked with them, they were aware of their bad deeds (questioning authority of Administrator, etc) and they would like to contribute to the wiki as a regular editor again, if given the chance.
*[[Bedok Feeder Services 222 - 229]]
*[[Toa Payoh Feeder Services 230 - 238]]


I would like to apologise if I, in any way, have questioned your actions/authority.
Thanks


Thank you,
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 5 November 2024, 12:11
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Latest revision as of 12:11, 5 November 2024

Rules for my feedback to stop irritate me.

  • Please kindly wait for up to 7 days unless stated otherwise for my reply to your feedback. No reply will be given if your feedback does not require reply or I could not answer to your feedback.
  • Please do not ask for general question like How to etc.
  • Please do not ask for permission to do something.
  • Please refrain from requesting to retrieved deleted article as excessive history will be cleared.
  • When requesting me to edit locked pages, please give either
    • Affected sections code
    • Advertisement in full
    • Affected parts to change in details.
    • Avoid statement like same as other vehicle
  • Please kindly indicate Autoblock ID if you have been affected from it.
  • I will not entertain any request under BCM transition.

Leave your message below[edit]

Rail Wiki Expansion[edit]

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Station layout[edit]

Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.

Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.

How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?

Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades[edit]

Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.

Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box

Thanks and Regards

Service information[edit]

The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.

Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.

Bring back Bus Service 222/222A/222B and Bus Service 282 will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.

Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page

Bus ads[edit]

Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.

Just to bring to your attention, the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)[edit]

Just to bring to your attention that the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE) are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.

Bus Service Pages (History)[edit]

I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.

Since[edit]

Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.

Re: Bus Ads[edit]

Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.

White/blue UPD sticker[edit]

Hi,

The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.

Regards, Kay

Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages[edit]

Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.

Re: reformatting of bus service pages[edit]

Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that[edit]

Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages

Thanks

Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 5 November 2024, 12:11

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