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I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


===TEL3/Diversions affecting alternative travel methods===


Hi admin, I am back from hiatus due to a busy schedule and I will be working on more stations very soon!
==Station layout==


Looking at the recent NDP & F1 diversions of this year, and making a study on various diversions during pre-COVID days, I would like to suggest whether it would be possible if a notice on bus diversions can be done on certain Alternative Travel Method pages (eg. Esplanade, Bayfront, Chinatown) where diversions are frequent? In addition, I will also try to rearrange the priority methods where needed so as to reduce inconvenience for passengers when train disruptions and bus diversions occur at the same time. I look forward to hearing your feedback.  
Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.


At the same time, I would also like to enquire what are the sections for splitting the TEL stations once TEL3 opens.
Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.  


Thanks and regards!
How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?


Wekelwrady
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==


===Travel Time (East to West)===
Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.


Yes, without any doubt we can give it a go, since 88 is a service present in Pasir Ris Int, and there are a handful of bus services 3/89/109 heading to TPE Punggol, which would be much efficient than a 58 to Kaki Bukit. We eliminate 58 since it takes the longest, and for 81 I will await your take for it. Then for going NSL stations we can put 168 to Woodlands alongside the option of 858 and 969 to Khatib twds the Jurong East direction, that way the crowd dispersal would be more effective. Pasir Ris bound I think we just put 858 969 only bah, and for 39 it would be up to the commuters to explore.
Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box


When the Pasir Ris page is modified it would have similar travel patterns as to those in Tampines and Changi Airport. Feel free to edit as much as you can too!
Thanks and Regards


Side note, I will try update as many stations as I can, while for creating non-TEL stations (including transfer stations) that have TEL transfers, I have also published them in the talk pages while TEL3 hasn't opened. Expected area of scope would be NSL (as you have already seen) and many other CBD stations. Thanks and regards.
==Service information ==
The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.


===RE:81/Travel Time===
Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.
Noted about your response on 81. I will make the necessary adjustments.


Travel time would take a lot of work, but we can give it a go! Because some of the alternative routes will eventually takes a few extra more mins, so it would be more informative.
Bring back [[Bus Service 222/222A/222B]] and [[Bus Service 282]] will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.


Another thing I had in my bucket list for alternative pages was an exit number/alphabet beside the bus stop, but I am not sure if it works because most MRT stops already have labelled the exit names on them.
Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page
== Bus ads ==


===Re: Exits===
Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.


A round up to the nearest 5 minutes is a good gauge, especially when there are traffic conditions/walking speed that may give variations. I would agree to that.
== Just to bring to your attention, the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] ==


However, for rail transfer between lines, I believe there is more room to study about it. Because I think what we have never looked into is the walking distance between the lines, as well as how different stations sync their train arrivals, which translates to different station layouts. Base on my personal experience at MacPherson and Chinatown, where the transfer platforms are close to one another, some of the train arrivals sync together.
Just to bring to your attention that the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.


In addition, when it comes peak hours, the frequency of trains may be shorter until one can get onto a train easily, just as the examples of the NSEWL transfer stations that you have stated. On the opposite hand during off peak hours, if one cannot get onto a train/bus that smoothly, this might take more than 10 mins waiting time. So I do not think an average of 10 min waiting time is sufficient enough for a disclaimer. I am not enough of a train expert but I would like to understand from your perspective whether my thoughts make sense.
== Bus Service Pages (History) ==


I would strongly support the inclusion of escalators and lifts in the station layout so that people from all walks of life can find clearer and better barrier free access! :)
I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.


===Re: Walking distance between two nearby stations===
== Since ==
Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.


Yes, I had also thought about walking between two stations before. Same had applied to walking from Marina Bay to Bayfront. However, my main concern is getting people to have a familiar sense of direction, especially those with poor navigation skills. Coincidentally, I had one real life experience where I once had tried to explain to an elderly person how to walk from CPF Maxwell to Outram Park where SGH is at, and it was extremely frustrating that I eventually showed the way under my guidance. That has been one tricky part, you know HAHAHAHAHA. As you know, Maxwell is one of those places with poor bus connections, not even one to Outram, so it has been something I had tried to figure out. I would consider it lucky that Service 80 was amended to detour around Cantonment in Sengkang direction, at least something to connect to Maxwell with a direct transfer!
== Re: Bus Ads ==
 
Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.
 
== White/blue UPD sticker ==
 
Hi,
 
The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.
 
Regards,
Kay
 
== Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages ==
 
Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.
 
== Re: reformatting of bus service pages ==
 
Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.
 
Regards,
LTA Bus Irrationalisation
 
== Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that ==
 
Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages
 
*[[Bedok Feeder Services 222 - 229]]
*[[Toa Payoh Feeder Services 230 - 238]]
 
Thanks
 
[[User:Alphabetlorefan1|Alphabetlorefan1]] ([[User talk:Alphabetlorefan1|talk]]) 5 November 2024, 12:11
 
== Bus History page ==
 
Hi is it possible that History page be kept untouched? I nearly missed out on Sv 78's amendment to Jurong Town Hall Int when doing a complication of the bus history for today (26 November)

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Leave your message below[edit]

Rail Wiki Expansion[edit]

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Station layout[edit]

Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.

Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.

How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?

Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades[edit]

Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.

Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box

Thanks and Regards

Service information[edit]

The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.

Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.

Bring back Bus Service 222/222A/222B and Bus Service 282 will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.

Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page

Bus ads[edit]

Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.

Just to bring to your attention, the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)[edit]

Just to bring to your attention that the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE) are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.

Bus Service Pages (History)[edit]

I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.

Since[edit]

Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.

Re: Bus Ads[edit]

Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.

White/blue UPD sticker[edit]

Hi,

The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.

Regards, Kay

Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages[edit]

Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.

Re: reformatting of bus service pages[edit]

Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that[edit]

Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages

Thanks

Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 5 November 2024, 12:11

Bus History page[edit]

Hi is it possible that History page be kept untouched? I nearly missed out on Sv 78's amendment to Jurong Town Hall Int when doing a complication of the bus history for today (26 November)

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