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I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.
I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


== Sengkang / Punggol LRT Route Map, Plaform Layout ==


No objections for Sengkang / Punggol LRT route to be entirely based on geological layout. Initially thought that the EWL Changi branch can also be my point of reference, but geological layout is more logical. For the subsequent LRT stations do we just only include the stations that are within the direction of travel within the loop + opposite loop?
==Station layout==


Looking at the platform layouts, I believe we have more than enough space to implement the pictograms bah. Nothing comes to mind that any of the elevators/escalators, faregates, Passenger Service Centre would clash together in one layout. Ticketing machines should be easy to find unless the machines that only accept cash are hard to find within a station, so I don't think that would be a priority.  
Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.


I have two different takes on exit layouts. One is within the station concourse, and the other, the Locality maps that we are all familiar with. I personally feel that it is more important to indicate the exit locations within the concourse. As for Locality maps, would rather think of putting it on the Alternative Travel Methods pages of certain stations. Can disregard if the locality maps are very detailed in indicating bus stops eg. Maxwell, otherwise, maps that date back to the early 2010s eg. Chinatown, Boon Lay or lacking in detail really need some updated exit map guidance so that we can convey to them where the bus stops are.
Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.  


===Reply===
How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?
I think we are good to go with sticking with a single line option for an LRT layout so that there is a clear sense of direction. We will not need an entire loop.


And just nice! City Hall platform and concourse illustrations perfectly fit what we are looking for. I would strongly encourage to give this kind of design a go. Maybe you are right, provided if no size constraints on the wiki page, for an afterthought, we can consider putting the ticketing machine positions after we get everything laid out.
== Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades==


You and I are also on the same page when it comes to Locality Map presentation. There is indeed lots of inconsistency in various stations. I had once wrote in asking the authorities and MRT operator to get the 2013 Chinatown map upgraded, they say they would, but I have not heard a word from them ever since, nor was it renewed. I believe getting every MRT/LRT station to have the newer TEL standard map will take eternity. Raffles Place map may have upgraded, but in turn did not reflect OCBC Bldg or Prudential Twr bus stops.  
Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.


For a start, I think we can focus on just three details on a map on this wiki: Road Shape, Exit Alphabets/Numbers, and Bus Stops with numbers. Important amenities second, that would be an afterthought. In this way it will be less exhausting, and we can make better effort and productivity for make such map layouts for every station.
Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box


===Reply (11/1/2023)===
Thanks and Regards
Road name, 5-digit bus stop code, the suggested visual markers and exit numbers as the main map details should work fine. Looking forward to implementation! Maybe we can try out City Hall first, the road shapes there are almost straight, and not really much development happening nearby. Do let me know how much time it takes to make such a sample map.


Oh and one more question, is the line layout supposed to like only reflect one station code at transfer stations?
==Service information ==
The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.


Would like to seek advice. Thanks and regards.
Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.


===Reply (12/1/2023)===
Bring back [[Bus Service 222/222A/222B]] and [[Bus Service 282]] will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.


In chemistry, only a suitable range of the amount of catalyst added will increase the rate of reaction. If we use an excessive amount of catalyst, there will be little effect on the rate of reaction.
Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page
== Bus ads ==


Like how we have 200+ stations in Singapore, we will find that implementing locality map on an image graphic can be done within a year, which you say can use Photoshop for processing, and that might spur us in finishing the job. Even if editing means that we have to replace the image graphic, but assuming replacing the image graphic=same process as implementing image graphic first hand, few days of editing will still be worth it. On the opposite hand, we might find ourselves giving up halfway in implementing a wiki html, though initially it sounded tempting that a future edit would be easier, and that adds up to more than a decade and a half. That would be comparable to growing a gingko tree and waiting for it to bear fruit.
Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.


I was also thinking, we can straightaway dive directly into exits numbers/layout to platform layout/concourse as one of the choices selected, since this type of implementation is also doable within the one day range. Looking forward to how the effect will look like so that we can compare.
== Just to bring to your attention, the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] ==


== Map progress ==
Just to bring to your attention that the pages [[Former Deployments of BYD K9]] and [[Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)]] are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.


Thanks for the update! Will this 5 min walking speed be the standard plan for all stations? Because I am about to plan to send over the map screenshots with all the required 5-digit stop codes(as remarks) reflected in the alternative travel pages.I will do my best to assist in this process.
== Bus Service Pages (History) ==


== Reply: Fleet Size of 912 ==
I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.
Hi.


I will leave the fleet size as 4 for now. As far as I know they only have 4 buses scheduled with 5 AP duties every day.
== Since ==
Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.


== Concourse and exit layout WIP ==
== Re: Bus Ads ==


Bedok draft has been sketched from Photoshop, and I am on my way to collect more icons, and will make a visit to Admiralty probably next week to trial a similar layout.
Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.


Current elevator dimension is 160x160 on a side note.
== White/blue UPD sticker ==


As discussed before, I agree that there is indeed a need for a file sharing system, especially for icons. Thanks and Regards
Hi,  


== User : Draconite Dragon ==
The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.


Hi Admin,  
Regards,
 
Kay
I would like to bring your attention to this user : https://sgwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Draconite_Dragon
 
 
On 30 Jun 2023, he claimed that SG6198L and SG6199J has been on 161 for a week on his talk page. As I am a regular passenger of Service 161, I have never seen these 2 buses perform any trips of 161.
 
(Link : https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Trunk_Services_160_-_169&diff=prev&oldid=584281)
 
 
He then removed SG6077C and SG6102M from 161. However, these 2 buses were still being spotted daily.
 
(Link for pictorial proof : https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct9AGtXxp8T/)
 
 
After playing a cat and mouse game of undoing and redoing edits, he suddenly removed the two buses (SG6198L and SG6199J) from 161 and added them into 154, despite "saw it doing 161 for a week or more.". 
 
(Link : https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Trunk_Services_160_-_169&diff=prev&oldid=584379 and https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Trunk_Services_160_-_169&diff=prev&oldid=584379)
 
 
I believe this is not the only standalone case. The user has made many edits and some edits involved shuffling in buses into a service and then removing them a few hours later.
 
(Link : https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Draconite_Dragon&offset=&limit=500&target=Draconite+Dragon)


== Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages ==


I believe his edits are just merely acts of vandalism, and those buses he proclaimed to be on whichever services, do not actually exist.
Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.


== Re: reformatting of bus service pages ==


Please do take a while to look at his edits, as there are a lot of inconsistencies in his edits, which would cause a lot of reliability issues with the wiki.  
Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.


Regards,
Regards,
LTA Bus Irrationalisation


Haram
== Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that ==
 
== Recent edits==
 
Hi admin,
 
Please kindly take a look at this user edits on service 5, user had placed false info on bus deployments and undoing them will make it hard for other users. There are more new accounts created like this. Thanks
 
https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Trunk_Services_2_-_9&action=history
 
== ItsRaboot ==
 
Hi, <br/>Would like to bring the above user's edits to your attention. They have edited the AWBDR CDGEs into the grey box section in the infobox, even though these units aren't deregistered yet. See https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=Volvo_B9TL_(CDGE)&curid=7032&oldid=590814 . This is their 3rd time editing this, despite me & another user telling them not to. I would've reverted their edits if not for 3RR.<br/>Thanks,<br/>AirFan19
 
== User Weilong ==
 
Hi could you keep an eye on this user Weilong, his edits look dubious, plus he doesn't edit the relevant pages, not even sure if his edits are correct or not


== user:  Draconite Dragon ==
Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages


pls look into the edit for this user Draconite Dragon
*[[Bedok Feeder Services 222 - 229]]
*[[Toa Payoh Feeder Services 230 - 238]]


all incomplete edit... alway fail to edit former deployment.
Thanks
and even when he edit former deployment, the dates are all wrong (many are backdate to Jun 2023? or Dec 2023??)


seem like his edit are based on single day spotting.  alway have to undo his edit...
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Rail Wiki Expansion[edit]

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

Is it OK to add info of train deployments (including TRNs and their sequences), acronyms legend and train fleet info (similar to what's done for buses)?
Data can be obtained from here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PMuCeF31etWzPv_U42qMaFoHvYwDpnkSWHgjvuuTxdg/edit
All data collated in the above document are based on spottings and observations from fellow enthusiasts.

I hope you will support us to make these valuable information more accessible to all. Thank you.


Station layout[edit]

Looks like a perfect concept! Very simple and straight to the point with just the icons in place.

Was this inspired from the elevator diagrams that appear at certain stations eg. Somerset, Chinatown? I will try and see whether I have the skill to do a replication.

How would this turn out if it were a transfer station?

Map progress /Alternative Travel Method Upgrades[edit]

Nah I checked the Main Page, I don't have the rights to edit.

Meanwhile I am getting some time to learn how to create a dropdown box

Thanks and Regards

Service information[edit]

The Bus Stop Info can be kind of misleading because of the Show/Hide Route Details. Some readers may think that those are the only bus stops, it wld be btr to use the Click to Expand/Collapse function to prevent this.

Why not try Show/Hide Full Route Details at least now they know they are seeing only the details partially.

Bring back Bus Service 222/222A/222B and Bus Service 282 will make the nesscary changes and if u can delete the redirects and move 222/A/B to 222.

Hi, how do we do the Green and White (G/W) Services, do they each get a separate page or a combined page

Bus ads[edit]

Hi, regarding the new format in the pages, where are the ads? The advertisement column isn't there.

Just to bring to your attention, the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE)[edit]

Just to bring to your attention that the pages Former Deployments of BYD K9 and Former Deployments of Volvo B9TL (CDGE) are still around despite these models having been fully retired and all former deployments transferred to the main page.

Bus Service Pages (History)[edit]

I think that including the history pre-integration might complicate things and confuse people. Better to remove them and put them in a separate bus service page, then link those pages I hope it confuses people less.

Since[edit]

Removed it because it contradicts with the operator and current deployment info. That specific time frames are clearly stated in the former deployment section. Will revert them if you are against this idea.

Re: Bus Ads[edit]

Hi maybe can put it out there any ad updates, can just put on my talk page, because I am interested in the latest bus ad updates. And I do have a personalised mobile bus deployments on my phone then can update there as well.

White/blue UPD sticker[edit]

Hi,

The white/blue UPD stickers differentiate UPDEP buses between those under tendered contract (white) and those not (blue). This is exspecially a problem for UPDEP spare fleet, and buses in depots like AMDEP, BNDEP meant for Bukit Merah package. Hope this helps.

Regards, Kay

Re formatting of some svc fleet and all bus fleet pages[edit]

Hi I’m just wondering why is all bus fleet pages alongside some svc fleet pages completely changed by someone who's “destroying” sgwiki completely & thinking it’s his own personal website and this makes it annoying for us editors to edit things right now I really hope u do revert most of the old format changes back as editors like me definitely do prefer it.

Re: reformatting of bus service pages[edit]

Hi, I see why you and sgbustrain may want to reformat it to make information more easily accessible by displaying information about each bus service all on 1 page. However, by reformatting these pages, they basically show information similar to what other websites and apps display. They will just be like landtransportguru’s bus service pages, but with much less information (i.e. route length, travelling time, and many photos of the bus service), rendering these SgWiki pages useless and replaceable. Even if you still insist on reformatting pages to have a page for each individual bus service, I hope that it will also include information like perm buses, down routes, duty table, etc. In conclusion, Sgwiki’s pages should offer something different and not just duplicate existing pages. Thanks.

Regards, LTA Bus Irrationalisation

Deletion of those 2 pages or leave it like that[edit]

Since those services in those 2 pages are transferred to it's own service page respectively, why I can see to refer it. I have two choices as to delete since it's already transferred or leave it like that? Here are the two pages

Thanks

Alphabetlorefan1 (talk) 5 November 2024, 12:11

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