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| Hi all, admin here. | | Hi all. |
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| Feel free to share any suggestions that can help improve sgWiki, which includes improving/revamping the guidelines, which were too harsh on our former and existing editors.
| | As [https://sgwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:SMB315C&diff=prev&oldid=715717 Hearmeout mentioned], the following reclassifications have been proposed to better align with community usage: |
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| Just a heads up, I will not be imposing any penalty on any disruptive editing for now, with an exemption for individuals who deliberately harass any of the existing or inactive users here.
| | * CRRC CSR6120GLEVD2 → CRRC '''eD12''' |
| | * CRRC TEG6125BEV03 → CRRC '''C12''' |
| | * MAN ND323F → MAN '''A95''' |
| | * MAN NG363F → MAN '''A24''' |
| | * MAN NL323F → MAN '''A22''' |
| | * Yutong ZK6125BEVGS → Yutong '''E12DD''' |
| | * Yutong ZK6128BEVG → Yutong '''E12''' |
| | * Zhongtong LCK6126EVG → Zhongtong '''N12''' |
| | * Zhongtong LCK6126EVGS → Zhongtong '''N12D''' |
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| Also, I would like to thank every editor who invested time and effort in keeping the wiki running. Appreciate it a lot.
| | Community feedback on these proposed changes is welcome. Thank you. |
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| Cheers,
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| SMB315C
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| ==Reply #1==
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| ===Advertising in sgWiki===
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| I understand the concerns regarding disruptive advertising. Unfortunately, I currently do not have control over the placement or frequency of these ads.
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| That being said, I will consider raising this issue with the wiki's bureaucrat to explore possible adjustments.
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| In the meantime, affected users may wish to install an adblocker extension to reduce the impact of intrusive ads.
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| Appreciate your patience and understanding.
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| ===Guidelines===
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| The previous Guidelines page has been removed due to its outdated content. A new version will be drafted once active editors have contributed their ideas.
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| ===Migrating to other existing wiki sites===
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| At this point, I don’t see the benefit of migrating to another site, especially when we are struggling to maintain and update our existing content.
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| ===Redirect issue===
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| The Main Page has been revised. I hope the new version better reflects the wiki’s purpose and improves navigation for all users.
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| = Suggestions =
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| ===1. Revamp the Guidelines===
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| '''Tone down harsh wording'''
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| Replace rigid, punitive language ("will be blocked", "strictly prohibited") with more constructive phrasing ("please avoid", "may be reverted", "we encourage"). This helps new editors feel guided, not threatened.
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| '''Tiered expectations'''
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| Create different sets of rules for:
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| New editors (basic formatting, citing, no vandalism).
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| Experienced editors (style consistency, formatting details, advanced citations).
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| This avoids overwhelming beginners with complex standards.
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| '''Positive framing'''
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| Showcase "good practices" with examples rather than just "do nots." For example, before/after edits illustrating clean formatting or proper references.
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| ===2. Improve Onboarding===
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| '''Beginner-friendly sandbox/tutorial'''
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| A clear "Start here" page where new editors can practice formatting without consequences.
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| '''Mentorship or buddy system'''
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| Experienced editors can volunteer to guide newcomers for their first few edits.
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| '''Quick-start guides'''
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| Condensed cheat sheets (e.g., "Top 5 things to know before editing") instead of making users scroll through long rule pages.
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| ===3. Community Culture===
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| '''Encourage collaboration, not policing'''
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| Replace strict "enforcement" with "community improvement." For example, instead of scolding mistakes, allow small fixes by others and leave a polite edit summary explaining the change.
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| '''Recognition'''
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| Badges or userbarns for milestones (100 edits, 1,000 edits, quality contributions).
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| Monthly "Featured Editor" to spotlight consistent contributors.
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| '''Feedback channels'''
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| Make a dedicated, low-barrier space (like a Help Desk or Discord server) for editors to ask questions without judgment.
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| ===4. Editorial Process===
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| '''Soft reverts'''
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| Instead of instantly deleting new edits, consider a system where questionable edits are flagged for review rather than reverted outright.
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| '''Revise not punish'''
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| When rules are broken (except vandalism), allow editors to revise their work with guidance instead of issuing warnings/blocks too quickly.
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| '''Consensus-driven updates'''
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| Revise guidelines collaboratively (maybe a yearly community consultation) so editors feel ownership, not top-down enforcement.
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| ===5. Transparency & Evolution===
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| '''Public changelog for rules'''
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| Editors can see when/why guidelines were updated. This builds trust.
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| '''Community polls'''
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| Use surveys/votes to decide on big rule changes (e.g., formatting standards, citation requirements).
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| '''“Editor feedback loop”(What we are doing now)'''
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| Periodically ask: What rule feels most unfair/unclear? and adjust accordingly.
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| 👉 In short: the key is softening the tone, lowering entry barriers, and building a sense of belonging rather than fear of punishment.
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| Regards,
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| [[User:SBS5251K|SBS5251K]] (with the help of ChatGPT)
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| ==Bus Advertisements==
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| I have noticed that there is a facebook group for reporting bus advertisements. We can use the data
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| from there to update sgwiki.
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| == Administrators ==
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| Sgwiki is in turmoil because of the lack of an efficient management. To resolve that, we must appoint more admins.
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| == Migration ==
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| Why not migrate to http://editthis.info/sgwiki/Main_Page or https://sgbus.fandom.com/wiki/Buses? Definitely not https://sgwiki.miraheze.org/. The ads is very invasive and disruptive even on mobile.
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| == Main Page redirect ==
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| Hi admin, is it possible for the main page to have at least something instead of just a redirect? Redirects make it seem very awkward, so I suggest that the main page could be similar to the previous one (before deletion with rails), where links to key pages such as [[Bus Deployments]], [[Singapore Bus Fleet]], and [[History of Bus Services]]. Thank you.
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| Regards,
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| LTA Bus irrationalisation
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| Re: Reply #1
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| Thanks for the change of the main page, but could this ([[Buses]]) be linked as a content page? So possibly “[[Buses|Content Page]]” or however you wish to name it.
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| Thank you!
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| Regards, LTA Bus irrationalisation
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| == Ad issues ==
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| Hi admin, is it possible to remove ads entirely or at least control where it appears? Thanks.
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| Kimminju
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| == Formatting Error ==
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| Hi admin, apologies for adding on to your already busy workload facilitating the change, but I would like to raise this issue to your attention. On my laptop and iPad (not happening on my phone), all pages with tables all are misaligned, and some pages have to be reloaded before the formatting is correct, while this has no effect on others. I have already checked and there are no coding errors on any of these pages, especially since I am able to see the correct formatting by pressing show preview after pressing the edit button. Hope that this can be fixed soon as I believe it has something to do with the wikipedia code itself. Thank you!
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| Regards, LTA Bus irrationalisation
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| == Categories on former deployments, what about see also? ==
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| Hi, I think I forgot these on the former deployment, could you just add these?
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| CastJared
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| ==User:Kimminju==
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| Please ban User Kimminju
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| This user like to copy from other wiki like wikipedia and miraheze.
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| Regards
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Bus classification
Hi all.
As Hearmeout mentioned, the following reclassifications have been proposed to better align with community usage:
- CRRC CSR6120GLEVD2 → CRRC eD12
- CRRC TEG6125BEV03 → CRRC C12
- MAN ND323F → MAN A95
- MAN NG363F → MAN A24
- MAN NL323F → MAN A22
- Yutong ZK6125BEVGS → Yutong E12DD
- Yutong ZK6128BEVG → Yutong E12
- Zhongtong LCK6126EVG → Zhongtong N12
- Zhongtong LCK6126EVGS → Zhongtong N12D
Community feedback on these proposed changes is welcome. Thank you.