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== sedep deployment ==


18/9/20
== Svc 162 Perms ==


Hi
Hi


1133 got the 265 perm sticker..alway driven by a lady BC.. not sure it is 17S...
For the Serangoon Downroute:
Mon-Thu: SG1165P
Fri: SG1101Z
Sch Hol Mon-Fri: SG1147S


AS for 6571, i am not so sure.. so far, everytime i at ave 10, never saw this 6571 on 261.
The first bus from Shenton Way is 162se409 (SG1082U) from Mon-Thu and 162se509 (SG3068Z) on Fri.
is it crossover duty from 24? or pull bus? actually, if u have notice that 261/138 like to take buses from sv24 esp during even peak. seem like the interchange staff alway redeploy sv24 buses to 261/138 when the incoming buses are late or buses having some issues..


it might be perm 24 though.. although sometime, they did not update the perm sticker (as in 5078).
Thanks
SBS2652G


as for 5232, i still saw on 265 this two weeks..might have changed duty..
== sedep deployment ==
1160 might be out.. did not really see this bus.. .
 
and seem like 1146 might be perm 138 again.. doing 138 on same slot this week, while E6 are doing sv70 (3 or 4 daily)....
if you are at interchange, maybe can check o 1146, should be departing at around 1820 (it return to AMK ave 5 at around 730pm and interchange around 740pm this week).
kinda messy with all the deployments.. 


are you able to spot the 13th bus for 269 ? esp after 1173/6810 are out. i think there is only 12 buses now...
seem like 269morning downroute reduce to 1 bus (1114) and thus there is crossover to 262 (6810)


1175/6575 seem stuck on 268 but coinbox still show SBY...
1114 doing 269a on daily basis also.


== perm sticker ==
== perm sticker ==
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might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.
might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.


you stay AMK ave 5?
EDIT: amdep/brbp buses also got perm stickers on coinbox nowadays... yellow sticker... with format such 13-10 or 131-12. Not sure what is the behind digit for...


== Feeder 265 Downroutes from AMK Int ==
== Special Weekday Schedules ==


Hi Jonathanchu,
Hi Jonathanchu,


Pardon for my request, but is it possible for you to provide me a list of buses and their departure timings of the buses performing downroutes from AMK Int? I am trying to organise the notes better. Especially when there are evening downroutes as well. Thank you.
As the Special Weekday Schedules is always undergoing constant changes, I only update them with the latest information when available. Currently, this schedule is suspended due to COVID-19 and there is no extension of bus operating hours or holidays that warrant the use of this schedule.
 
Hope you understand. Thank you.


Themystery
Themystery


== recent sedep deployment ==
==Reply==
Hi
 
Thanks for flagging the grammar mistake. Indeed, the past participale for shorten is shortened. I had fixed the grammar mistake.
 
Thanks and regards
 
== Reply: New front and side alert cameras on buses ==
Hi.
 
Thanks for writing in your observation. However I don't have any much knowledge on this. I believe these are being rolled out on the Tower Transit buses as well.
 
I will help direct your query to [[User talk:Ihengheng|Ihengheng]].
 
== RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses ==
 
1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.
 
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf<br />https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf
 
2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).
 
3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.
 
https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf
 
4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.
 
Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:<br />
Without ADAS:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/<br />
With Mobileye:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/<br />
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/<br />
With DriveSafe (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/
 
Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.<br />
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg<br />
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):<br />
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg<br />
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/<br />
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):<br />
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/
 
As a summary:<br />
Buses with 1x T-FA:<br />
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid
 
Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):<br />
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently
 
Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):<br />
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)
 
Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.
 
-Ihengheng
 
== sv72 ==
 
 
 
Someone have edit the whole 72/72B perm fleet in May.. based on his insider info. He split into 72 and 72B..8 perm bus for 72B plus 5 crossover.
 
Not sure when you saw 5525 on 72, but for the past 2 week is ITE holdays. so no 72B...


Hi
maybe just wait till ITE term start then see again.


See below.
== My observations ==


SBS6658P 138 >> 268<br>
Hi,
SBS6568R 268 >> 138<br>


**** for this, i still see 6568 on 268 and 6658 on 138. there are alway 138 bus doing 268 and vice versa..i would think more of maintainance during split shift purpose.  
I observed that SBS2003E, SBS6575U and SG1026H keep doing 135 every weekday while SBS6077R keeps doing 24 every weekday.


Thank you.
SBS6872L >> 265<br>
GoAheadAmbassador


**** i think i still saw the SBY sticker last few day..
== Re: My Observations ==
SG1154X >> 76 (saw numbers on coinbox sticker instead of “SBY”, but couldn’t make out the numbers)


**** might be perm. today on 76 as well. cant see the sticker as well.
Hi Jonathanchu,
SG1814A >> 138 (always seen parking at AMK Int for 138)<br>


**** basically any of the E6 is doing the missing 1146 slot.. no perm bus. can be few day same bus, then switch again. sometime even got 2 E6... last week is 1812.. this week i saw 1751..
I observed that SG1088D keeps doing 24 every weekday.
SG1149L and SG1120T don’t really seem to stick to 133 and 130 respectively but there were no stickers on the coinbox so I can’t confirm if they’re SPs.<br>


1149 might be sp... last time i saw got the 133 sticker.... but SEDEP also weird. ..remove the new perm sticker for 1231/6120 even though still doing 71 daily...  
Thank you.


lemon1974
GoAheadAmbassador

Latest revision as of 09:44, 7 March 2023

Svc 162 Perms[edit]

Hi

For the Serangoon Downroute: Mon-Thu: SG1165P Fri: SG1101Z Sch Hol Mon-Fri: SG1147S

The first bus from Shenton Way is 162se409 (SG1082U) from Mon-Thu and 162se509 (SG3068Z) on Fri.

Thanks SBS2652G

sedep deployment[edit]

seem like 269morning downroute reduce to 1 bus (1114) and thus there is crossover to 262 (6810)

1114 doing 269a on daily basis also.

perm sticker[edit]

the perm sticker for citaros/KUB are on the coinbox (facing the BC). so if you are at bus stop, might be difficult.. unless when you board the bus and sit behind the BC seat..

might need to stand at the centre divider and wait for the bus to passby (this might be difficult if the bus pass very fast). for me, i usually stand near where the bus stop is.. and i also drive sometime, so easier for me to spot from the other direction as well.

EDIT: amdep/brbp buses also got perm stickers on coinbox nowadays... yellow sticker... with format such 13-10 or 131-12. Not sure what is the behind digit for...

Special Weekday Schedules[edit]

Hi Jonathanchu,

As the Special Weekday Schedules is always undergoing constant changes, I only update them with the latest information when available. Currently, this schedule is suspended due to COVID-19 and there is no extension of bus operating hours or holidays that warrant the use of this schedule.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

Themystery

Reply[edit]

Hi

Thanks for flagging the grammar mistake. Indeed, the past participale for shorten is shortened. I had fixed the grammar mistake.

Thanks and regards

Reply: New front and side alert cameras on buses[edit]

Hi.

Thanks for writing in your observation. However I don't have any much knowledge on this. I believe these are being rolled out on the Tower Transit buses as well.

I will help direct your query to Ihengheng.

RE: New front and side alert cameras on buses[edit]

1) As the forward and side collision warnings are provided as part of the camera's functionalities and that not all buses have both cameras installed, listing the product names (T-FA/T-SA) should be sufficient like on the Yutong pages. This is similar to how the Mobileye 560/630 and the Shield+ are being listed.

https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-FA.pdf
https://www.tnts.com.sg/useruploads/files/T-SA%20(CE8S8).pdf

2) For the BYD and Yutong pages, I separated them since the T-FA and T-SA are separate products (T-FA has similar functionality to the Mobileye 560/630 while T-SA has similar functionality to the Mobileye Shield+).

3) The DriveSafe (previously named I-SAW-U) system uses 2 T-FA cameras. The difference is that instead of displaying information on the individual T-Watch displays, DriveSafe integrates the camera and sensor data to provide an all-round visual display and controls the audio and visual alerts for the exterior.

https://www.stengg.com/media/1076165/stels_drivesafe.pdf

4) The 5 DriveSafe trial buses as well as various MAN Euro VI buses under SBS Transit had Mobileye 630 installed initially. For some time these buses had both systems before the Mobileye system was removed. Currently, all SBS Transit buses recently installed with the T-FA and T-SA retain the Mobileye system.

Here are some photos of SG5922U for reference:
Without ADAS:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nine-fortyfive/28735181118/
With Mobileye:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137572901@N05/43654858580/
With Mobileye & DriveSafe:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/47485457481/
With DriveSafe (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/144383974@N03/50032991291/

Currently there are different variants of the T-FA and T-SA in use. Functionality wise they are similar if not identical.
T-FA variant 1 (DriveSafe trial buses, MAN ND323F Euro VI, MAN NL323F Euro VI, MB O530 Hybrid & Yutong E12DD):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/I-SAW-U-Front-Cameras.jpg
T-FA variant 2 (BYD K9 & Yutong E12):
https://landtransportguru.net/web/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Yutong-E12-Interior-25.jpg
T-SA variant 1 (BYD K9, Yutong E12 & Yutong E12DD):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/162240903@N06/50202281291/
T-FA variant 3 & T-SA variant 2 (current):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186727602@N05/50716516618/

As a summary:
Buses with 1x T-FA:
MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 2) & MB O530 Hybrid

Buses with 1x T-FA & 2x T-SA (1 for each side):
BYD K9 (Gemilang), Yutong E12, Yutong E12DD & all existing buses being upgraded currently

Buses with 2x T-FA (DriveSafe buses):
All 20 DriveSafe trial buses, MAN NL323F Euro VI & MAN ND323F Euro VI (Batch 1)

Hope this clarifies any doubts that you may have, feel free to reply if you have any more questions.

-Ihengheng

sv72[edit]

Someone have edit the whole 72/72B perm fleet in May.. based on his insider info. He split into 72 and 72B..8 perm bus for 72B plus 5 crossover.

Not sure when you saw 5525 on 72, but for the past 2 week is ITE holdays. so no 72B...

maybe just wait till ITE term start then see again.

My observations[edit]

Hi,

I observed that SBS2003E, SBS6575U and SG1026H keep doing 135 every weekday while SBS6077R keeps doing 24 every weekday.

Thank you. GoAheadAmbassador

Re: My Observations[edit]

Hi Jonathanchu,

I observed that SG1088D keeps doing 24 every weekday.

Thank you.

GoAheadAmbassador

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