User talk:Supernutorcrazy

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RE: About the Wiki

Hi Supernutorcrazy,

I'm sorry to hear about the false accusations which led to the Wiki's current state, however I believe that does not mean that their "beliefs" should get in the way of maintaining order in the Wiki.

As much as you are "not allowed to moderate", I believe that, at the very least, sgWiki Guidebook guidelines should be enforced until Jason resolves the issue with all Administrators & involved infiltrators.

I know that there are other wikis out there that are getting constantly vandalized, and it is also just as difficult keeping things in order as well as starting a whole new wiki, having to set up all pages again to provide relevant info.

I'm sorry if I sound imposing, but it is for the good of the wiki.

Regards,
DarkNight

About a username change...

Good evening sir,

I was wondering if I could get a username change to a SMRT registration number. Just like how some users have bus plates in their username. Eg. SG5064X, SMB1572U etc.

Regards,

SimonLim88

Reply: Seeking informations

Hi.

Classification of bus models

Scania K230UB

We should leave the page titles as they currently are.

However, we may consider amending the titles to the following:

• Scania K230UB (Euro IV Batch 1) → Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 1)
• Scania K230UB (Euro IV Batch 2) → Scania K230UB (Euro IV) (Batch 2)
• Scania K230UB (Euro V Batch 1) → Scania K230UB (Euro V) (Batch 1)
• Scania K230UB (Euro V Batch 2) → Scania K230UB (Euro V) (Batch 2)

This is to standardise with the Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) page titles.

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MAN NL323F

We may consider amending the titles to the following:

• MAN NL323F (Batch 1) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 1)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 2) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 2)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 3) → MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 3)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 4) → MAN NL323F (Euro VI)

or

• MAN NL323F (Batch 1) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 1)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 2) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 2)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 3) → MAN NL323F (Euro V) (Batch 3)
• MAN NL323F (Batch 4) → MAN NL323F (Euro VI)

This is to differentiate the bodywork and the emission difference, and also standardise with the Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) page titles.

That aside, it might be weird for us to list SG3100M in the MAN NL323F (Euro V Batch 2) page as it is currently a retrofitted electric bus.

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MAN ND323F

We should leave the page titles as they currently are.

It doesn't sound right for us to classify SG2017C as a Euro VI demonstrator bus as

• It is ordered under the third production batch
• It carries the updated face-lift design, the same as the other 91 MAN ND323F (Batch 3) buses

SG2017C has the same engine model as the MAN ND323F (Batch 4) & (Batch 5) buses. Passenger capacity is an exception as the LTA has mentioned that newer buses would have 2 PIW lots.

If not, we will be classifying SG2017C as a Euro VI demonstrator, and the following changes would be made:

• MAN ND323F (Batch 1) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 1)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 2) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 2)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 3) → MAN ND323F (Euro V Batch 3)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 4) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI Batch 1)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 5) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI Batch 2)

or

• MAN ND323F (Batch 1) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 1)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 2) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 2)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 3) → MAN ND323F (Euro V) (Batch 3)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 4) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI) (Batch 1)
• MAN ND323F (Batch 5) → MAN ND323F (Euro VI) (Batch 2)

As for the upcoming 50 3-Door MAN ND323F buses, should we list them under the existing MAN ND323F (3-Door) page?

Or should we list them separately as

• MAN ND323F (3-Door) (Euro V)
• MAN ND323F (3-Door) (Euro VI)

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Alexander Dennis Enviro500

We will create a new 'Alexander Dennis Enviro500 (3-Door)' page once registration has commenced for the 50 3-Door ADL E500 buses. The prototype bus should not be listed in this page.

No change to the existing ADL E500 pages.

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Volvo B9TL (WEG2)

We may consider amending the titles to the following:

• Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 1) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 1)
• Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 2) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 2)
• Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 3) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 3)
• Volvo B9TL (Wright Eclipse Gemini 2) (Batch 4) → Volvo B9TL (WEG2 Batch 4)

This is to standardise with the Scania K230UB page titles, as well as how we indicate these buses in the bus service deployment pages.

Classification of bus services

I have seen and read the discussion initiated by user 'Litlah', and the discussion page that you have recently created.

• All pages with more than 30 subheading will be split into smaller page to facilitate easier browsing & editing on mobile devices. This means SBS Transit Short Working Trips has to be split. But this in contrast to user Wekelwrady that had pointed out that it would broke the standardisation issue. So a counter-solution would be made as below.

Opinion: I honestly don't see why is there a problem with lengthy pages. There is a 'Contents' section at the top of the page for us to jump to the section that we would like to read or edit.

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• Short Working Trips will be merged into Parent Service Pages, with the sub heading as Short-Trip instead of Service.
• Merger of Services 400 - 405 and Services 851 - 860 etc. would not take place. But in lieu of the GCM and how LTA like to "draw services into package" anytime, a merger of page between operators could be made so that a change of operator would not need to rename/move multiple sections.
  • Example: Merge of Services 400 - 405 and Service 403 into Basic Services 400 - 405 with the concept follow CDS Bus Deployments and Bukit Batok Feeders.
  • Such merger and renaming exercise will applies to others with route number such as, but not limited to Express services. Example:
    • CDS Bus Deployments → City Direct Services 651 - 672
    • NightRider Services → NightRider Services NR1 - NR8

Opinion: It would great if we proceed with both mergers. However it would better if we could retain our current way of listing the services by operators by reinstating the subpages that you have previously created for a small number of services. Also, the operator logo should be displayed along with the bus service route, depot & bus package details. I think we can implement this after

1. CDS 668 is transferred its operations to a PBO & receive WAB status so that we can eliminate the WAB indication.

2. The reorganisation of night services has been announced by the LTA.

Hopefully this can be implemented before the change in operator for the Mandai & Bulim services.

Thanks.