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While this is not a thing, because the LTG watermark images came to attention by many readers complaining about it, we do this as copyright, just like several Bus Service pages. If you can take a look at [[Bus Service 33]] as an example, its plagiarizing LTG. Hence, we should reduce description + replace image with better ones. | |||
Flickr images, to my opinion, if the images are credited with the link and the author next to it might have no line for it. Hence, if you can take a look here, click here as an example: | |||
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You can a link added for crediting. But, we dont know either |
Revision as of 23:08, 18 March 2025
Do we need better images without the LTG Watermark on the Buses images?
Hi, there is a Copyright issues, since LTG Watermark images begin to spread on Searches, even if you used Google and the same image appears, Should there be a replacement of Images that contains the LTG Watermark with better ones without a Watermark?
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CastJared, I agree, many people like to upload image without checking watermark image. If you can find one image that is not LTG, feel free to do so. Take a look here, this is what pops up for the on the google search which clicked on it redirects to SgWiki
Reply (TTEDC)
Per the copyright notice on the LTG about page, while it says that photos from LTG are all rights reserved, LTG welcomes "Non-commercial use of [their] photos". As the nature of use of SGWiki can be considered educational and thus non-commercial, it can be implied that the use here is acceptable.
Ironically, taking photos from random Flickr users or other websites and uploading here, in some cases without credit, is actually worse than taking photos from LTG. This is because (taking this file for example) most of them are placed under the All Rights Reserved license. Per the Flickr information page, All Rights Reserved is a form of copyright that indicates that the copyright holder reserves, or holds for their own use, all the rights provided by copyright law. The original author indicates no clause for exemption for educational or otherwise non-commerical uses, meaning that unless the use satisfies the conditions under Fair Use (as detailed by Part 5 of the Copyright Act 2021), an infringement has occurred. Given that a large number of photos were taken from the same authors (including Arthurchan687 from the aforemention photo link), it is hard to argue that the conditions for fair use, specifically "the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the whole work or performance" under Section 191 of the aforementioned act is satisfied.
TTEDC
Response
I fully agree with what TTEDC has been saying above. There is no need to rush in replacing LTG images, I will replace them bit by bit.
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I agree with the stand of TTEDC. However the LTG copyright claused arises due to bus fan community raising noise about sgWiki using LTG images, infringing on copyright. Given that LTG also come from bus fan community, this issue were then taken seriously and the gradual process of removing all photos from LTG.
Supernutorcrazy (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2025 (+08)
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While this is not a thing, because the LTG watermark images came to attention by many readers complaining about it, we do this as copyright, just like several Bus Service pages. If you can take a look at Bus Service 33 as an example, its plagiarizing LTG. Hence, we should reduce description + replace image with better ones.
Flickr images, to my opinion, if the images are credited with the link and the author next to it might have no line for it. Hence, if you can take a look here, click here as an example:
You can a link added for crediting. But, we dont know either